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Thread: is the population bomb real

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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I hope I'm absolutely wrong but there's every indication that the sustainable quality of life has hit its population peak and will only begin to deteriorate in the future. Currently it seems to be in a transformation phase of give and take but the definition for a successful and meaningful standard of life will probably change dramatically in the next decade or so. We will probably start to see far more noticeable shifts in classes and groups of people into haves and have nots with the middle evaporating.
    The population in America has doubled since I was born and the quality of life has already been significantly degraded IMO.

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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I doubt it will be worse for anyone.
    Just my opinion though.
    Your optimism is a refreshing view for a change.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I doubt it will be worse for anyone.
    Just my opinion though.
    Wolves in Idaho are being shot, trapped and poisoned as we speak, it is worse for them.

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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The population in America has doubled since I was born and the quality of life has already been significantly degraded IMO.
    I think the ease or even standard is higher but I believe the context of quality is in question. You and I remember the old ways that had a tad tougher work ethic but also a deeper meaning. Few people under 40 will remember those days having not lived them of less electronic distraction and more physical interaction with nature and each other.
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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    IMO we have too many people on the planet already and the quality of life is decreasing as population increases. The guy that wrote the book The Population Bomb is now saying there should be mandatory population control which I am against but as far as his contention that we have to stop or even reverse population growth I tend to agree.

    "A Stanford professor and author of The Population Bomb recently published a paper in a scientific journal re-emphasizing climate change and population growth pose existential threats to humanity and in an interview with Raw Story said that giving people the right to have as many children as they want is “a bad idea.”

    The only criticism we’ve had on the paper is that it’s too optimistic,” said Paul Ehrlich, Bing professor of population studies at Stanford University and president of the Center for Conservation Biology. “You can’t negotiate with nature.”The study, published the Proceedings of the Royal Society B journal earlier this month says that climate change is “driven by overpopulation, overconsumption of natural resources and the use of unnecessarily environmentally damaging technologies and socio-economic-political arrangements to service Homo sapiens‘ aggregate consumption.”

    ‘Population Bomb’ scientist: ‘Nobody’ has the right to ‘as many children as they want’ | The Raw Story
    I could give him plenty of criticism other than "it's too optimistic."

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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Your optimism is a refreshing view for a change.
    Just track the overall progress of civilization.
    Individual civilizations rise and fall, but on aggregate people went from calorie deficient, to calorie indulgent.
    Among all the other great things.

    I mean it's about 28 degrees outside, inside my house it's about 64-65 and I'm complaining that I'm cold.
    In comparison to what most of the people, of the world have experienced, I'm a cry baby.
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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Wolves in Idaho are being shot, trapped and poisoned as we speak, it is worse for them.


    Not to be a cold hearted bastard, but they aren't people.
    The wolves will be fine.

    Humans tend to be nice to wildlife eventually.
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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just track the overall progress of civilization.
    Individual civilizations rise and fall, but on aggregate people went from calorie deficient, to calorie indulgent.
    Among all the other great things.

    I mean it's about 28 degrees outside, inside my house it's about 64-65 and I'm complaining that I'm cold.
    In comparison to what most of the people, of the world have experienced, I'm a cry baby.
    LOL,,, no doubt we are almost spoiled rotten compared to previous generations. But does that make you appreciate life more or less?

    To be honest everyone my age or older will always remember the good old days as better.
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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just track the overall progress of civilization.
    Individual civilizations rise and fall, but on aggregate people went from calorie deficient, to calorie indulgent.
    Among all the other great things.

    I mean it's about 28 degrees outside, inside my house it's about 64-65 and I'm complaining that I'm cold.
    In comparison to what most of the people, of the world have experienced, I'm a cry baby.
    I keep it about 75 in my house but I heat with wood I cut on my own land so it's free heat in a way, yes you are "a cold hearted bastard".

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    Re: is the population bomb real

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    LOL,,, no doubt we are almost spoiled rotten compared to previous generations. But does that make you appreciate life more or less?

    To be honest everyone my age or older will always remember the good old days as better.
    Well, until I really thought about it.
    I didn't think about it at all.

    Knowing what I know now, I really appreciate what I have.
    All my ancestors that lived before me, put a lot more work into getting, what I have come by relatively easily.
    It helped though having a grandparent relate to me stories of how he grew up and how I never had to endure things like that.

    I think most every generation remembers the "good ole days."
    Watching this show about eastern Europe and the fall of the iron curtain.
    A lot or most of the elderly long for the days of communism, even though it was pretty ugly for them.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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