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    Universal background checks

    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
    If that was really true, then there would be no difficulty at all in getting the Constitution amended in order to supersede the Second Amendment, and to allow the right affirmed therein to be infringed to the degree of requiring these checks as a prerequisite for exercising that right. That no credible effort has been made to propose such an amendment proves that those who claim there is this much support are flat-out lying.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Nien, Nyet, Non, and again NO!

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
    not at all because I actually understand gun laws and I know damn well that making me conduct a BGC when i want to give my wife or son or brother a pistol is not going to stop a guy with a long record who has a gun in violation of federal law from giving it to another mope with a record.

    I also know that the only way to enforce this is to make us non commercial sellers keep the same records and undergo the same surprise inspections that commercial dealers are subject to



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If that was really true, then there would be no difficulty at all in getting the Constitution amended in order to supersede the Second Amendment, and to allow the right affirmed therein to be infringed to the degree of requiring these checks as a prerequisite for exercising that right. That no credible effort has been made to propose such an amendment proves that those who claim there is this much support are flat-out lying.
    Just remember...."yet". I suspect that we will see just such a bill in the Senate this year. It will almost certainly get shot down in the House but I have no doubt that it will be proposed.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    While in theory, I have no problem with it, the reality is that universal background checks won't stop a damn thing. For one thing, it won't stop crazy people who steal guns, buy them on the black market, or "borrow" the gun of a friend, neighbor or family member. Most people who have mental problems will not have those mental problems reported to state or federal authorities, due to doctor/patient confidentiality rules. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of mass-shootings we've seen would never have been stopped by a background check, in fact, in many cases, these are people who *PASSED* a background check, got a gun completely legally and still went on a rampage.

    It just won't make a difference, sorry.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    While in theory, I have no problem with it, the reality is that universal background checks won't stop a damn thing. For one thing, it won't stop crazy people who steal guns, buy them on the black market, or "borrow" the gun of a friend, neighbor or family member. Most people who have mental problems will not have those mental problems reported to state or federal authorities, due to doctor/patient confidentiality rules. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of mass-shootings we've seen would never have been stopped by a background check, in fact, in many cases, these are people who *PASSED* a background check, got a gun completely legally and still went on a rampage.

    It just won't make a difference, sorry.
    and when it stops nothing the gun haters will claim we need

    UNIVERSAL compulsory registration of all guns

    NO private sales whatsoever

    etc to remedy the problems this joke of a law failed to stop



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and when it stops nothing the gun haters will claim we need

    UNIVERSAL compulsory registration of all guns

    NO private sales whatsoever

    etc to remedy the problems this joke of a law failed to stop
    But all of those things are unreasonable, you cannot enforce laws like that. Pass all the laws you like, I can sell my gun to anyone I want to. I can break into a house and steal guns, then go on a rampage. These are really idiotic ideas, but I guess we have to look at where they come from.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
    I seriously question that figure. I don't consider a CBS poll to necessarily be unbiased and credible either.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
    This is not a valid yes/no question!

    It is like asking "Should we let kids eat ice cream?", yes ocassionally, but not all of the time and no if they are allergic.

    This is not a valid poll question since it does not say: HOW these BG checks are done, WHERE these BG checks are done or the USER COST of these BG checks. I support doing these "universal" BG checks ONCE per citizen, upon issue, renewal or update of their state issued, photo IDs by adding a "GUN OK" designation if the NICS database check so indicates. I do not support doing them only at FFL dealers for each gun/ammo sale and at a cost of $35 to $50 per sale.
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