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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So background checks do not prevent law abiding people from purchasing guns, as some in the far right claim.
    that is not the proper analysis

    the laws you propose are not applicable to criminals seeking to sell guns

    the fifth amendment precludes that

    and the laws you want are designed to fail so someone like you-who is on record wanting complete gun bans-can argue that society needs to pass more laws.



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is not the proper analysis

    Only according to the far right which represent less than 10% of voters.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only according to the far right which represent less than 10% of voters.
    you have failed to ever do any analysis



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have failed to ever do any analysis
    The proof is that background checks haven't stopped law abiding citizens from buying tens of millions of guns.

    Show us your proof of how background checks have prevented law abiding citizens from buying guns..............
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The proof is that background checks haven't stopped law abiding citizens from buying tens of millions of guns.

    Show us your proof of how background checks have prevented law abiding citizens from buying guns..............

    that is a moronic standard. You have to prove that universal background checks have decreased crime

    you cannot



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Nor should there be. Buying, selling, trading, manufacturing, or otherwise exchanging arms must be included in keeping and bearing arms. What good is the right to keep and bear arms without the right to acquire them?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is a moronic standard. You have to prove that universal background checks have decreased crime

    you cannot

    Try to focus Mr. TurtleDude, you were defending Bob's statement that background checks do not let law abiding citizens acquire guns.

    Where is your proof in this defense?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    I like Israel's laws. In that country ... you better have a gawd damn good reason to want to own a WMD and be prepared to be on a public list so your neighbors and law enforcement know of you ... and your behavior best be stellar. The people who used WMD and mass murdered people in the United States in the past 20 years would not have passed the Israeli scrutiny.

    As far as handguns for collection, security or guns for hunting or sport possibly less stringent checks.

    I support second amendment rights yet I am sick of pussy men that think they need WMD to "feel" safe.

    Oh and idiots ... lock your guns up and quit toting them around in public. Oh and another thought ... all of you who are scared ****less without your weapons ... You cannot bring them with you when you come to the hospitals with your diseases of lifestyle or your wounds of violence.

    Get a grip people.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Personal insults + fractional support for your opinion = failure!
    Let's see, there was no personal insult, and your ignorance of the law is not 'fractional support' on my end... so yes, your position has failed, like it has every time you have spoken out with your anti-gun nonsense.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    this is complete silliness. what part of the constitution gave the federal government the power to restrict citizens owning firearms?
    That makes no sense.

    So everything the Constitution does not specifically restrict it's citizens from doing/owning means they should be able to do/own without any background check or restrictions?

    Okay.

    So then by your logic, any American should be able to fly a plane or build a nuclear reactor or drive any size of vehicle/boat (including ocean liners) or sell heroin or practise medicine or sell weapons to other countries and so on...all WITHOUT ANY federal restrictions.



    And where exactly in the post you quoted did I say ANYTHING about ownership restrictions?

    The answer is: I did not.

    I strictly was talking about background checks.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Republican Senator With An ‘A’ Rating From NRA Open To Universal Background Checks

    "Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) is the latest Republican considering legislation to strengthen gun laws, despite his history of opposition to gun regulations.

    In a handful of town halls throughout southern Iowa this week, Grassley was repeatedly asked his views on stronger gun laws. He made clear that he would oppose an assault weapons ban, but said he’d consider legislation on extended magazine clips and universal background checks.

    “I’m going to see what the language of the amendment is,” Grassley told a constituent on Wednesday in Indianola when asked about a poll showing 88 percent of Iowans supporting universal background checks. He noted that although he’d opposed universal background checks in the past, he would consider such legislation this time around."
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