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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Pew Research Center - "While gun owners, unlike the public at large, oppose gun control measures such as banning assault-style weapons, a big majority of gun owners (85%) support making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. That matches the level of support among the general public for doing this."

    Most Gun Owners Favor Background Checks for Private Gun Sales | Pew Research Center
    If 85% of the emails,letters, phone calls and faxes regarding gun issues did tell elected offcials to support universal background checks and other anti-2nd amendment schemes then they would have already passed those things already. Politcians love their job, they are not going to risk losing their job.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Gun Policy: 45% Approve, 52% Disapprove

    CNN poll that says Obama is losing.....just like the CBS poll. Not even Obama can change those numbers, no matter how much he lies about that majority.

    Also you forgot that Biden stated they, meaning the Fed doesn't have time to prosecute cases for Background checks.

    Obama Loses once again!!!!!
    I don't approve of the way the president is handling the proposed gun safety laws either. He should have been taking a more active and forceful role.

    That doesn't change the fact, as shown by all the polls, that the great majority of Americans don't want background checks:

    Daily Kos: Yet more polls show Americans strongly support background checks. Will NRA lobbyists trump them?

    You said the President's approval rating is 45%, which we'll go with here, even though you didn't provide a link and I've seen other polls that showed him getting a bump this month and moving up to 51%.

    But even at your number, the President is still receiving an approval rating 3 times as high as the approval ratings for congress -

    "This month's approval rating is on par with last year's average of 15 percent, which was the lowest yearly average registered since Gallup began asking the question way back in 1974."

    Gallup-Congressional Approval Rating: Americans continue to give lawmakers low marks.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If 85% of the emails,letters, phone calls and faxes regarding gun issues did tell elected offcials to support universal background checks and other anti-2nd amendment schemes then they would have already passed those things already. Politcians love their job, they are not going to risk losing their job.
    So it is your opinion that money has no influence on Congress?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So it is your opinion that money has no influence on Congress?
    I haven't said anything about money.Its my opinion that enough angry voters do have significant influence over their elected officials. If most of the emails,faxes, letters and phone calls are telling them to oppose what ever anti-2nd amendment legislation Obama is proposing then that is what they are going to do. Which is why most of the elected officials in pro-2nd amendment states are opposing any anti-2nd amendment legislation. If most of the emails,faxes, letters and phone calls are telling them to support what anti-2nd amendment legislation Obama is proposing then that is what they will do. Which is why elected officials in anti-2nd amendment states are supporting any anti-2nd amendment legislation Obama is proposing.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your numbers are right wing mythology, and obviously you've not seen the new executive orders from the President.

    Executive Orders On Gun Control: Obama Will Enforce Existing Laws

    Executive Orders On Gun Control: Obama Will Enforce Existing Laws

    Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President

    Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President - Forbes
    Yay! Using the Executive Order to write legislation! Go power of the King, go!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yay! Using the Executive Order to write legislation! Go power of the King, go!
    Do you think executive orders for federal agencies are something new?

    "All presidents beginning with George Washington in 1789 have issued orders which in general terms can be described as executive orders."

    Executive order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you think executive orders for federal agencies are something new?

    "All presidents beginning with George Washington in 1789 have issued orders which in general terms can be described as executive orders."

    Executive order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Nope, don't be stupid. The way in which they are now used as a way for the President to side step Congress and for the President to gain power of legislation, however, is relatively new.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I haven't said anything about money.Its my opinion that enough angry voters do have significant influence over their elected officials. If most of the emails,faxes, letters and phone calls are telling them to oppose what ever anti-2nd amendment legislation Obama is proposing then that is what they are going to do. Which is why most of the elected officials in pro-2nd amendment states are opposing any anti-2nd amendment legislation. If most of the emails,faxes, letters and phone calls are telling them to support what anti-2nd amendment legislation Obama is proposing then that is what they will do. Which is why elected officials in anti-2nd amendment states are supporting any anti-2nd amendment legislation Obama is proposing.
    So because you didn't mention payola to Congress means it doesn't happen? And you will have to show me, since background checks for gun sales was enacted in 1994, when they were ruled to be an infringement of the 2nd Amendment rights. Like I've said, if this Congress can't get it done, the voters will work that problem out over the next couple elections.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't approve of the way the president is handling the proposed gun safety laws either. He should have been taking a more active and forceful role.

    That doesn't change the fact, as shown by all the polls, that the great majority of Americans don't want background checks:

    Daily Kos: Yet more polls show Americans strongly support background checks. Will NRA lobbyists trump them?

    You said the President's approval rating is 45%, which we'll go with here, even though you didn't provide a link and I've seen other polls that showed him getting a bump this month and moving up to 51%.

    But even at your number, the President is still receiving an approval rating 3 times as high as the approval ratings for congress -

    "This month's approval rating is on par with last year's average of 15 percent, which was the lowest yearly average registered since Gallup began asking the question way back in 1974."

    Gallup-Congressional Approval Rating: Americans continue to give lawmakers low marks.
    I didn't put up a link as I put up the CNN poll as a thread. The CBS poll was in a gun thread. So coming back with Daily KOS doesn't change the fact that the majority of Americans are not with the supporting those background checks. Nor a database to be held by the Feds of Law Abiding Citizens that have guns.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope, don't be stupid. The way in which they are now used as a way for the President to side step Congress and for the President to gain power of legislation, however, is relatively new.
    Don't be idiotic, who has made a case to the courts that the president's executive orders were unconstitutional? Interagency orders do not require congressional approval under our rule of law.
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