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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    if it doesn't pass we will know who voted against it, and we will work on getting representatives elected that will carry out the will of the people.
    …as happened in 1994.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The ACLU does not oppose universal background checks, or even a ban on the proposed firearms and magazines, but they are against the establishment of a federal government database containing private citizens who own firearms. The pro gun-control mainstream media outlets have portrayed this concern as a conservative case of paranoia, but coincidentally, the ACLU doesn’t trust the government with this information either.

    The bill does not technically, or so the Democrats claim, establish such a database immediately."
    Because the excerpt you posted above is not a direct Calabrese quote it must be 'spin'...that you previously derailed...confused on how it was bad but now is good...?


    if it doesn't pass we will know who voted against it, and we will work on getting representatives elected that will carry out the will of the people.
    AH, ok...good luck with that!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You are the one who is insulting 85% of gun owners, by spreading the lie that they would support the stupidity which you are defending.

    It is a flat-out lie—and you know very well that it is— that 85% of Americans in general, much less 85% of gun owners, are stupid enough to support these “universal background checks”. You insult Americans in general, and gun owners in particular, by continuing to spread this lie.

    Pew Research Center - "While gun owners, unlike the public at large, oppose gun control measures such as banning assault-style weapons, a big majority of gun owners (85%) support making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. That matches the level of support among the general public for doing this."

    Most Gun Owners Favor Background Checks for Private Gun Sales | Pew Research Center
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Pew Research Center - "While gun owners, unlike the public at large, oppose gun control measures such as banning assault-style weapons, a big majority of gun owners (85%) support making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. That matches the level of support among the general public for doing this."

    Most Gun Owners Favor Background Checks for Private Gun Sales | Pew Research Center
    Are you making the argument that a policy supported by the majority is necessarily ethical?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Big shock!

    ACLU Opposes Universal Background Checks

    Does this shock you? It sure does me!

    As Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) works with other Senate Democrats to find a way to push their gun control package through, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is warning that universal background checks pose a threat to individual privacy and could lead to firearm registration.
    Read more @ ACLU Opposes Universal Background Checks
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by longknife View Post
    Big shock!

    ACLU Opposes Universal Background Checks

    Does this shock you? It sure does me!
    Read more @ ACLU Opposes Universal Background Checks

    You Breitbart story was already debunked.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The ACLU does not oppose universal background checks, or even a ban on the proposed firearms and magazines, but they are against the establishment of a federal government database containing private citizens who own firearms. The pro gun-control mainstream media outlets have portrayed this concern as a conservative case of paranoia, but coincidentally, the ACLU doesn’t trust the government with this information either.

    The bill does not technically, or so the Democrats claim, establish such a database immediately."
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Dem, GOP senators work on background check deal for gun legislation

    "Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Penn.) are negotiating an agreement that could expand background checks on gun sales to include gun shows. A deal would serve as a major breakthrough for gun-control legislation being pushed by President Obama."

    "With the Senate returning Monday from a two-week recess, the chamber’s debate on gun control legislation could begin as soon as Tuesday, though it might be delayed if the lawmakers need more time to complete a deal, the aides said.

    The potential deal, which aides cautioned still might change, would exempt transactions between relatives and temporary transfers for hunters and sportsmen, they said.

    Manchin is a moderate who touts an A rating from the National Rifle Association, which has opposed Obama’s gun control drive. Toomey has solid conservative credentials and was elected to the Senate two years ago with tea party support from his Democratic-leaning state."

    Read more: Dem, GOP senators work on background check deal*for gun legislation - NY Daily News
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Dem, GOP senators work on background check deal for gun legislation

    "Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Penn.) are negotiating an agreement that could expand background checks on gun sales to include gun shows. A deal would serve as a major breakthrough for gun-control legislation being pushed by President Obama."

    "With the Senate returning Monday from a two-week recess, the chamber’s debate on gun control legislation could begin as soon as Tuesday, though it might be delayed if the lawmakers need more time to complete a deal, the aides said.

    The potential deal, which aides cautioned still might change, would exempt transactions between relatives and temporary transfers for hunters and sportsmen, they said.

    Manchin is a moderate who touts an A rating from the National Rifle Association, which has opposed Obama’s gun control drive. Toomey has solid conservative credentials and was elected to the Senate two years ago with tea party support from his Democratic-leaning state."

    Read more: Dem, GOP senators work on background check deal*for gun legislation - NY Daily News
    so tell us-does the government plan on enforcing this law at a rate higher than the less than one tenth of one percent rate for current background checks



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so tell us-does the government plan on enforcing this law at a rate higher than the less than one tenth of one percent rate for current background checks
    Your numbers are right wing mythology, and obviously you've not seen the new executive orders from the President.

    Executive Orders On Gun Control: Obama Will Enforce Existing Laws

    Executive Orders On Gun Control: Obama Will Enforce Existing Laws

    Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President

    Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President - Forbes
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Your numbers are right wing mythology, and obviously you've not seen the new executive orders from the President.

    Executive Orders On Gun Control: Obama Will Enforce Existing Laws

    Executive Orders On Gun Control: Obama Will Enforce Existing Laws

    Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President

    Here Are The 23 Executive Orders On Gun Safety Signed Today By The President - Forbes
    Gun Policy: 45% Approve, 52% Disapprove

    CNN poll that says Obama is losing.....just like the CBS poll. Not even Obama can change those numbers, no matter how much he lies about that majority.

    Also you forgot that Biden stated they, meaning the Fed doesn't have time to prosecute cases for Background checks.

    Obama Loses once again!!!!!

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