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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its not a wonder you are sure, since this survey was paid for by the NRA. Couldn't find any credible national polls that back up your claim eh! Imagine that!
    It must suck to be so predictable...it would appear a 'non-NRA' organization also has issues with the current UBC legislation...the ACLU no less.

    ACLU: Reid gun bill could threaten privacy, civil liberties | The Daily Caller

    Upon casual review their concerns seem legitimate. Even you should support this; "we also believe those checks have to be conducted in a way that protects privacy and civil liberties." Once the often claimed '90% supporters' realize what the legislation proposes I expect it to fail...

    but you keep dreaming...
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think those who support those laws are either ignorant, dishonest or stupid


    Thank you for sharing your opinion of 85% of gun owners. I'm sure the respect is mutual!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    It must suck to be so predictable...it would appear a 'non-NRA' organization also has issues with the current UBC legislation...the ACLU no less.

    ACLU: Reid gun bill could threaten privacy, civil liberties | The Daily Caller

    Upon casual review their concerns seem legitimate. Even you should support this; "we also believe those checks have to be conducted in a way that protects privacy and civil liberties." Once the often claimed '90% supporters' realize what the legislation proposes I expect it to fail...

    but you keep dreaming...


    Let's see the unspun version from the ACLU website......
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thank you for sharing your opinion of 85% of gun owners. I'm sure the respect is mutual!
    thank you for constantly quoting silly polls rather than being able to proffer a rational argument about why another stupid law that won't be enforced will do any good other than make you feel like you have accomplished something and you have harassed honest people



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thank you for sharing your opinion of 85% of gun owners. I'm sure the respect is mutual!
    When 85% of the population supported slavery, did that make slavery right?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's see the unspun version from the ACLU website......
    Showing your predictability again I see...didn't read the link...how does one 'spin' an interview with an ACLU employee (Chris Calabrese) especially considering the article quotes his direct statements precisely?

    BTW, about how pissed off are you going to be when UBC's isn't passed?...
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    thank you for constantly quoting silly polls rather than being able to proffer a rational argument about why another stupid law that won't be enforced will do any good other than make you feel like you have accomplished something and you have harassed honest people
    The rational argument has been made for background checks for gun sales, and everyone agrees except the far right. 85% of gun owners support BGC because they know it doesn't stop them from buying guns.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Showing your predictability again I see...didn't read the link...how does one 'spin' an interview with an ACLU employee (Chris Calabrese) especially considering the article quotes his direct statements precisely?
    "The ACLU does not oppose universal background checks, or even a ban on the proposed firearms and magazines, but they are against the establishment of a federal government database containing private citizens who own firearms. The pro gun-control mainstream media outlets have portrayed this concern as a conservative case of paranoia, but coincidentally, the ACLU doesn’t trust the government with this information either.

    The bill does not technically, or so the Democrats claim, establish such a database immediately."

    BTW, about how pissed off are you going to be when UBC's isn't passed?...
    if it doesn't pass we will know who voted against it, and we will work on getting representatives elected that will carry out the will of the people.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the vast majority of people are unaware of the fact that the laws you drool over have no chance in decreasing crime and they are unaware of the fact that the brady bill-despite stopping allegedly 1.9 million sales did ZERO to decrease violent or gun crime and resulted in less than 300 prosecutions

    if the public knew that the Government has no intention of actually enforcing the law, I doubt so many would share your orgasmic glee over the prospect of the stupid law being passed
    It seems that for many on the more extreme fringes of the far wrong, it is the stupid laws in and of themselves that are the point, and not any good that they think these laws might accomplish. The idea of “doing something” about a problem, even when that which is being done has no plausible possibility of actually mitigating the problem that it purports to address.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thank you for sharing your opinion of 85% of gun owners. I'm sure the respect is mutual!
    You are the one who is insulting 85% of gun owners, by spreading the lie that they would support the stupidity which you are defending.

    It is a flat-out lie—and you know very well that it is— that 85% of Americans in general, much less 85% of gun owners, are stupid enough to support these “universal background checks”. You insult Americans in general, and gun owners in particular, by continuing to spread this lie.
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