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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Congratulations! Out of all the federal gun laws passed through the years that apply in all states, you finally found one that was ruled unconstitutional, however, "This left the door open for a later Congress, with more complete evidence and justification, to enact a valid Act, based upon a more complete showing of evidence of interstate commerce being sufficiently "affected" to justify the exercise of the federal Commerce power."


    Any constitutional challenges to the background check that has been law since 1993?
    the courts are catching up with the scholarship. the stench of FDR and his jurisprudential turds is starting to wane

    tell us Catawba, Make a rational argument for all the stuff you pine for.

    and hating gun owners isn't a sound argument



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the courts are catching up with the scholarship. the stench of FDR and his jurisprudential turds is starting to wane
    Translation- you couldn't find ****!

    tell us Catawba, Make a rational argument for all the stuff you pine for. and hating gun owners isn't a sound argument[
    The rationale for background checks is to make it more difficult for criminals and the mentally deranged than simply walking into a neighborhood gun show in 40 states and buying a gun for cash with no questions asked.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Translation- you couldn't find ****!



    The rationale for background checks is to make it more difficult for criminals and the mentally deranged than simply walking into a neighborhood gun show in 40 states and buying a gun for cash with no questions asked.
    yet with 20 years of the Brady check, there is no evidence that has decreased violent or gun crime. SO on the facts, your prediction has failed. and your "no questions asked" of course, is a lie



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yet with 20 years of the Brady check, there is no evidence that has decreased violent or gun crime. SO on the facts, your prediction has failed. and your "no questions asked" of course, is a lie

    Only the far right believe that. The great majority of people don't see the wisdom of letting criminals and the mentally deranged buy guns with no questions asked at neighborhood gun shows across the country.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the far right believe that. The great majority of people don't see the wisdom of letting criminals and the mentally deranged buy guns with no questions asked at neighborhood gun shows across the country.
    How would criminals get out of their jail cells to buy guns? Likewise, how would the mentally deranged get out of their hospitals to buy guns?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the far right believe that. The great majority of people don't see the wisdom of letting criminals and the mentally deranged buy guns with no questions asked at neighborhood gun shows across the country.
    the vast majority of people are unaware of the fact that the laws you drool over have no chance in decreasing crime and they are unaware of the fact that the brady bill-despite stopping allegedly 1.9 million sales did ZERO to decrease violent or gun crime and resulted in less than 300 prosecutions

    if the public knew that the Government has no intention of actually enforcing the law, I doubt so many would share your orgasmic glee over the prospect of the stupid law being passed



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you think so, post any credible national poll that backs up your claim that more than 10% - 15% oppose background checks for all gun buyers.
    Well because you asked and I ran across this yesterday…here you go:
    13. A new federal law banning the sale of firearms between private citizens…5% favor/92.2% totally oppose
    http://www.nraila.org/media/10850041/113topline.pdf

    Now I’m sure you will argue this is not a ‘credible national poll’ but consider this survey was performed by On Message Inc. NOT the NRA…or you will argue that the new law does not propose ‘banning the sale of firearms between private citizens’ which I will counter that yes it does as the new law requires an intermediary (the FFL who will perform the BGC).
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the vast majority of people are unaware of the fact that the laws you drool over have no chance in decreasing crime and they are unaware of the fact that the brady bill-despite stopping allegedly 1.9 million sales did ZERO to decrease violent or gun crime and resulted in less than 300 prosecutions

    if the public knew that the Government has no intention of actually enforcing the law, I doubt so many would share your orgasmic glee over the prospect of the stupid law being passed


    You may think that 85% of gun owners are stupid, I do not.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Now I’m sure you will argue this is not a ‘credible national poll’ .......

    Its not a wonder you are sure, since this survey was paid for by the NRA. Couldn't find any credible national polls that back up your claim eh! Imagine that!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You may think that 85% of gun owners are stupid, I do not.
    I think those who support those laws are either ignorant, dishonest or stupid

    most of them have no clue about what the anti gun zealots are planning

    very few understand that the federal government has made almost no effort to enforce the current laws involving those who lie on checks

    and many don't realize that the people who push these laws-like you-want more and more harassment of gun ownership to the point of gun bans

    but it looks like the dream of this silly law is waning



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