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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How do you prove that gun does not cross state lines once you sell it?
    uh that is already illegal. I can only sell to people in my own state. that destroys any interstate commerce which deprives the federal government of any power to regulate.



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So if 90% of the people wanted Christianity and only Christianity to be taught in all public schools then we can just ignore the Constitution? God you spout a ton of idiocy.

    For those that know the law, that is where the Supreme court decides whether a law is constitutional or not. They are in fact the only body specified under the Constitution with judicial power.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    For those that know the law, that is where the Supreme court decides whether a law is constitutional or not. They are in fact the only body specified under the Constitution to with judicial power.
    and it is legitimate for those who oppose a law to note that its unconstitutional

    tell us where the federal government gets the power to regulate purely intrastate activity after the LOPEZ ruling

    and given you are a gun banner and you support this proposed law doesn't that prove that you think its a tool to get you closer to the bans you want?



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is already illegal. I can only sell to people in my own state. that destroys any interstate commerce which deprives the federal government of any power to regulate.
    Despite whether it is already illegal or not, if it can be shown that guns being purchased at gun shows in one state are being used in crimes in another state, there is a good argument that the gun show sales are complicit in the interstate commerce of guns.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Despite whether it is already illegal or not, if it can be shown that guns being purchased at gun shows in one state are being used in crimes in another state, there is a good argument that the gun show sales are complicit in the interstate commerce of guns.

    that's a non answer and demonstrates a rather shocking ignorance of constitutional law.

    its already against the law

    and how can gun show sales are complicit? that's just stupid



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Obviously, the great majority of Americans, including 85% of gun owners, are not buying your far right wing talking points.
    No matter how often you repeat this lie, it will remain every bit as much a lie as it was the first time you said it.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Show me the 85% of Californians that don't support gay marriage?
    Both times that the issue came up on the ballot here, Californians voted overwhelmingly against recognizing the proposed sick, vulgar mockery of marriage as anything comparable to genuine marriage. It is only through the actions of corrupt judges that the issue is still in question.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a non answer and demonstrates a rather shocking ignorance of constitutional law.

    its already against the law

    and how can gun show sales are complicit? that's just stupid

    Its not against the law in 40 states for guns to be sold privately that may be carried across state lines.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Both times that the issue came up on the ballot here, Californians voted overwhelmingly against recognizing the proposed sick, vulgar mockery of marriage as anything comparable to genuine marriage. It is only through the actions of corrupt judges that the issue is still in question.

    Barely over 50%, nothing like the 90% support of background checks.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    No matter how often you repeat this lie, it will remain every bit as much a lie as it was the first time you said it.
    lie 2 (l)
    n.
    1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
    2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

    Lie - definition of Lie by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


    For someone to lie, they must have intended to deceive.

    And since you cannot know what his intentions were, then you cannot know whether he lied or not.

    So your statement is totally meaningless.

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