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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You are off base... AGAIN. Since you won't do your own homework...

    http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C13.txt





    It's the law, deal with it. You are WRONG.
    Hello? Where did I say it was not the law? I never did.

    I said how the 2nd Amendment was intended (IMO) and how it should be interpreted.

    Duh.

    The 2nd Amendment is from 1791.

    The Militia Act you are quoting from is from 1903.

    Congress could decide that a fetus is eligible for military service. Or a 12 year old.

    If Congress said 12 year olds are eligible for military service, would you think it fine that they carry guns?

    Do you always defend what the law says? Or just the ones that further your cause?


    I could care less how Congress has decided to prevert the Constitution.

    Nor do I care if the SCOTUS goes along with the perversion of said Constitution.

    There are tons of ridiculous laws that I do not sgree with.

    And Congress forcing every able-bodied adult to do their military dirty work is one of them.

    The military should always be volunteer - never a draft.

    The last thing I would want is to go into combat with a bunch of draftees who are only there because they have no choice.

    The only people that should not have to pass a background check for firearms are active duty military personnel (and cops, etc.).



    And I will ask you again - you mentioned falsehood before. Were you accusing me of lying?

    Yes or no?
    Last edited by DA60; 02-26-13 at 01:59 AM.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Thank you. Yep. Requiring a valid, state issued, photo ID is only an undue, discriminatory burden (enacted by racists?) to keep minorities down when required for voting (in racist states?); in all other cases, such as buying prescription drugs, alcohol, tobacco, guns or ammo, or when cashing a check or lottery ticket, it is then simply a "reasonable restriction".
    It's notable that only two of the activities which you mention are Constitutionally-affirmed rights.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Can you, or anyone else, recall any other proposed legislation in the last decade that had this much public support?
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As many have noticed, it is only the far right opposed to background checks for gun sales. Did you miss the OP?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    The 2nd Amendment is from 1791.

    The Militia Act you are quoting from is from 1903.
    Meaning that for a change, something has remained consistent. That being that all citizens are the militia...

    And I will ask you again - you mentioned falsehood before. Were you accusing me of lying?
    Based on your continued flow in one (wrong) direction regardless of reality, you are either being intellectually dishonest, or are incapable of incorporating facts into your decision making process.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am more optimistic, especially with more and more Republicans in Congress expressing their support of background checks. John McCain just joined other GOP senators supporting a bipartisan bill for expanded background checks. On the House side, your Congressional namesake, Peter King just recently went public with his support.

    "A coalition of House Republicans is willing to thwart the National Rifle Association’s opposition to broadening background checks for U.S. gun purchases. Representatives Patrick Meehan and Michael Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania are among Republicans expressing openness to expanding the background-check system, including mandatory screening of buyers at gun shows. “We need to consider any option that will keep people safe,” Fitzpatrick said in an interview. "

    "Representative Peter King of New York is another Republican who has said he supports universal background checks."

    "The coalition of House Republicans is probably no larger than 40, according to advocates of tighter gun restrictions, though it may grow once such measures advance in Congress."

    Gun Buyer Background Check Best Chance for New Limits - Bloomberg


    John McCain: Background Checks Will Get Broad Support In Senate
    Just to maintain your excitement and optimism...

    "Absolutely will not be record-keeping of legitimate, law-abiding gun owners,” Coburn told “Fox News Sunday.” “That will kill this bill.”

    I don’t think we’re that close,” Coburn also said.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2M11MfDgc

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
    I do (my own version), but the NRA and their lackeys(libertarians, conservatives) do not and I fear that they have the numbers and "enthusiasm" on their side.
    More children will have to be murdered.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Meaning that for a change, something has remained consistent. That being that all citizens are the militia...


    Theoretically correct...in 1776...
    Today, No citizen is qualified to be in a militia except the national guards......and the police of course.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It's notable that only two of the activities which you mention are Constitutionally-affirmed rights.
    The possibility exists that our Constitution is outdated.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Theoretically correct...in 1776...
    Today, No citizen is qualified to be in a militia except the national guards......and the police of course.
    And of course, you are WRONG. Because the 'militia' is STILL all of the people.

    Oh nevermind, I see below this post you ramble on with the silly left wing thought that the Constitution is 'outdated'. That's no better than the mind set of truthers and the like.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    I think perhaps all BG checks should be like CO, now that our CBI has caught up. Walk in, see gun, fill out papers, 8 1/2 minutes later approved, pay, leave store with gun.
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