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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's because unlike you, they understand the ramifications of such idiocy
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    90% of voters and 85% of gun owners agree with my position. Only the NRA leadership agrees with your position.
    I am not one of the leadership of the NRA. In fact, I am currently not a member of the NRA at all, nor in any way associated therewith. And I agree with Turtledude's position. There are many, many more like me, much more than the 10% to 15% that you claim.

    Repeating the same far wrong lie over and over again will not imbue it with even the faintest vestige of truth, and neither will modifying it as you have recently done. It's still, at its core, the same lie that has already been solidly disproven.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    There are many, many more like me, much more than the 10% to 15% that you claim.
    If you think so, post any credible national poll that backs up your claim that more than 10% - 15% oppose background checks for all gun buyers.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you think so, post any credible national poll that backs up your claim that more than 10% - 15% oppose background checks for all gun buyers.
    you have never told us what information people have

    if they were told that there was no way to enforce the law, that it is designed to fail so people like you-who want to ban guns-can demand registration and since it does not apply to criminals seeking to sell stolen or illegal weapons, I suspect you would have far different numbers



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have never told us what information people have

    if they were told that there was no way to enforce the law, that it is designed to fail so people like you-who want to ban guns-can demand registration and since it does not apply to criminals seeking to sell stolen or illegal weapons, I suspect you would have far different numbers

    Only the far right believe it can't be enforced.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the far right believe it can't be enforced.
    the far wrong are so deluded that they cannot even fashion an argument on how those who own guns illegally are going to engage in background checks



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the far wrong are so deluded that they cannot even fashion an argument on how those who own guns illegally are going to engage in background checks

    One more time, the purpose the proposal is to prevent felons or the mentally deranged from simply walking into gun shows in 40 states and exchanging cash for a gun with no questions asked.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    One more time, the purpose the proposal is to prevent felons or the mentally deranged from simply walking into gun shows in 40 states and exchanging cash for a gun with no questions asked.
    how do you know there are no questions asked. I have seen hundreds of such transactions and almost every time the seller asks for a driver's license

    you have a duty not to sell to someone who is not from the state you live in



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how do you know there are no questions asked. I have seen hundreds of such transactions and almost every time the seller asks for a driver's license

    you have a duty not to sell to someone who is not from the state you live in

    Without a requirement, there is no incentive for the private seller to ask a lot of questions. He would both lose sales and risk being jailed for knowingly selling a weapon to someone that shouldn't have one. Most voters think its a bad idea to continue to allow private gun sales without a background check.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Without a requirement, there is no incentive for the private seller to ask a lot of questions. He would both lose sales and risk being jailed for knowingly selling a weapon to someone that shouldn't have one. Most voters think its a bad idea to continue to allow private gun sales without a background check.
    Agreed.

    And that - once again is the bottom line.

    It is what most Americans - the vast majority of most Americans - appear to want.

    And until the pro-gun lobbyists can prove otherwise, their arguments are totally irrelevent.

    Or are they now saying that the will of the people should be ignored?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Agreed.

    And that - once again is the bottom line.

    It is what most Americans - the vast majority of most Americans - appear to want.

    And until the pro-gun lobbyists can prove otherwise, their arguments are totally irrelevent.

    Or are they now saying that the will of the people should be ignored?

    They just flat out deny all the national polls that prove public support. Despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise, they think most people agree with them!
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