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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have failed to address those points because all you have are talking points. You don't even understand the issues. Background checks have absolutely no relevance to stopping STRAW Purchases

    Thanks for reiterating the position of the 10% - 15% of voters that oppose background checks!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for reiterating the position of the 10% - 15% of voters that oppose background checks!
    bwaak bwaaaaak. same repeat parrot squawk



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, my claim is public support for background checks, which no one has disproved. As I noted earlier, it may take an election cycle or two get a congress that represents what 90% of voters support!
    Bill Clinton says you've got it backwards.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have failed to address the following

    1) demonstrate that these checks will decrease crime

    2) deal with the fact that the implementation of the Brady law did not decrease crime

    3) explain how criminals in possession of firearms will be prosecuted under a law which violates their 5th amendment rights

    4) explain how the law will be enforced WITHOUT complete registration

    5) explain why I should have to pay money to sell a gun to my brother or give one to my wife

    the far wrong loves to parrot silly polls where the responders are not given complete information
    But before we even bother with those points, please explain which of congress' enumerated powers would permit such legislation.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And explain which of congress' enumerated powers would permit such legislation.
    for the far wrong its the "if it feels good its constitutional"



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    for the far wrong its the "if it feels good its constitutional"
    If it accomplishes my ends of subjugating people a half a continent away, it's constitutional.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    NRA Leadership Virtually Alone In Opposition To Expanding Background Checks For Every Gun Sale

    NRA Leadership Virtually Alone In Opposition To Expanding Background Checks For Every Gun Sale | Research | Media Matters for America
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    NRA Leadership Virtually Alone In Opposition To Expanding Background Checks For Every Gun Sale

    NRA Leadership Virtually Alone In Opposition To Expanding Background Checks For Every Gun Sale | Research | Media Matters for America
    that's because unlike you, they understand the ramifications of such idiocy



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's because unlike you, they understand the ramifications of such idiocy
    To some folks it makes sense to make the crime of selling/transfering a gun "illegally" more serious than actually using the gun to commit a crime (or even carrying that gun illegally). Since the gun is well known to be the "root cause" of crime - merely touching it may turn you into a crazed mass murdering menace (possibly even make you suicidal, thus not caring about consequences at all). You can sell or give a knife to anyone, even a known insane felon, and rest assured that is legal even if they carve up school children with it, but not a gun - that is way out of bounds. You can sell gasoline in "to go" containers to known arsonists, drooling on themselves with glee, even sell them lighters and matches too, that is perfectly legal, but not a gun - that is a no-no for sure.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's because unlike you, they understand the ramifications of such idiocy
    90% of voters and 85% of gun owners agree with my position. Only the NRA leadership agrees with your position.
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