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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    But who pays for the background check? Unless the feds are going to kick in 100% of these new costs, you are going to disenfranchise the poor in regards to firearm acess.
    That is the opinion of the far right, yep. The great majority of us however see that felons are going to be disenfranchised in the 40 states where they used to be able to buy a cheap gun without a background check.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is the opinion of the far right, yep. The great majority of us however see that felons are going to be disenfranchised in the 40 states where they used to be able to buy a cheap gun without a background check.
    It's not opinion. Background checks cost money and the poor as you aware have a very limited supply of it.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is the opinion of the far right, yep. The great majority of us however see that felons are going to be disenfranchised in the 40 states where they used to be able to buy a cheap gun without a background check.
    Ha. Funny. I could buy guns all day long with no background checks. Pass the law, and I could still buy guns all day long with no background check. Maybe one day the left will come up with something that realistically will work to achieve the goal they claim to want to achieve.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Ha. Funny. I could buy guns all day long with no background checks. Pass the law, and I could still buy guns all day long with no background check. Maybe one day the left will come up with something that realistically will work to achieve the goal they claim to want to achieve.
    The point, that the great majority of us see, is that it will not be as easy or as cheap for felons as simply strolling into a gun show in 40 states and strolling out with guns they just payed cash for without a background check.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The point, that the great majority of us see, is that it will not be as easy or as cheap for felons as simply strolling into a gun show in 40 states and strolling out with guns they just payed cash for without a background check.
    Perhaps, but the point I see is that people will still get guns to commit crimes with. I really don't care what you do with gun shows, but the liberal agenda on guns seems no more productive than it was with prohibition when that was tried. Making things more expensive won't make the crime go away--it just induces more crime to get more money. I suppose on a macro level it it a bogus position to assert for the left because they do not want any of that regarding voting and guns are a more personal Constitutional right than voting is.

    I think they would be better off just limiting it to magazines in excess of those offered by the manufacturer and then focus on the causes of crime--poverty and the like.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Perhaps, but the point I see is that people will still get guns to commit crimes with.
    They will be harder to get, and criminals and the mentally deranged will have to have more cash to buy them. That's what it is about, reducing the easy accessibility of cheap guns to criminals and the mentally deranged.


    I really don't care what you do with gun shows

    Then why are you on this thread?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Local marketing show like Trades and Sales connects people locally for all sorts of merchandise.

    A category for guns. Locals connect face to face, cash in hand. From time to time, I would
    share a gun show table. My selling to an individual is perfectly legal. But dealers with big
    inventories and established businesses did the required background checks. Problem with
    checks, other then nibbling at the 2nd, is that they will not have impact.
    I do hope there is a serious attempt to see if there is a relationship with media
    violence and crime in general. With 25% unemployment the Great Depression was a period
    of tranquility compared to today. And the very difficult issue of mental illness.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    Local marketing show like Trades and Sales connects people locally for all sorts of merchandise.

    A category for guns. Locals connect face to face, cash in hand. From time to time, I would
    share a gun show table. My selling to an individual is perfectly legal. But dealers with big
    inventories and established businesses did the required background checks. Problem with
    checks, other then nibbling at the 2nd, is that they will not have impact.
    I do hope there is a serious attempt to see if there is a relationship with media
    violence and crime in general. With 25% unemployment the Great Depression was a period
    of tranquility compared to today. And the very difficult issue of mental illness.
    That seems to be the consensus among the 10% - 15% of voters that don't support background checks for gun buyers.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They will be harder to get, and criminals and the mentally deranged will have to have more cash to buy them. That's what it is about, reducing the easy accessibility of cheap guns to criminals and the mentally deranged.
    Good Luck with that. Prison and mental institutions are the only thing that will give you the results you seek.





    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Then why are you on this thread?
    Because I oppose registration that your side keeps trying to backdoor into the "Closing the Gun Show Loophole" efforts.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Good Luck with that.
    Thanks, with 90% public support, it will get passed sooner or later!



    Because I oppose registration that your side keeps trying to backdoor into the "Closing the Gun Show Loophole" efforts.

    I can guarantee you that the GOP will not let registry be part of any background check bill passed.
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