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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean other than common sense about how this congress has not been known for its bipartisanship?
    Ah, so you’re skeptical that anything will pass…?

    Nope! Google the NY sting of online advertisers for gun sales w/o background checks. What you described was single sale to a friend or family member.
    Interesting reads. Kinda seems like entrapment when a potential purchaser persists in asking questions to finally mention that ‘he probably couldn’t pass a background check’…
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Ah, so you’re skeptical that anything will pass…?
    Not at all, I am skeptical of your claim that it will include a registry and that it won't include exemptions.


    Interesting reads. Kinda seems like entrapment when a potential purchaser persists in asking questions to finally mention that ‘he probably couldn’t pass a background check’…
    It would seem more like entrapment to me if he didn't say he probably couldn't pass a background check.
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    Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I didn't ask for more far right opinion, I asked for a credible national poll that proves your opinion on background checks has any more than marginal support among voters.
    Name the legislation that will pass?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Name the legislation that will pass?
    Here are the two pieces of legislation I think have the best chances of being passed:

    The bipartisan gun safety measure designed to curb illegal gun trafficking and purchasing.

    And, the bipartisan expanded background check proposal being put together by Schumers group.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Here are the two pieces of legislation I think have the best chances of being passed:

    The bipartisan gun safety measure designed to curb illegal gun trafficking and purchasing.

    And, the bipartisan expanded background check proposal being put together by Schumers group.
    A little over 80% of americans support expanding background checks. With members of the NRA it's a little over 70% percent. This will pass sooner or later whether you like or not my conservative friends.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Here are the two pieces of legislation I think have the best chances of being passed:

    The bipartisan gun safety measure designed to curb illegal gun trafficking and purchasing.

    And, the bipartisan expanded background check proposal being put together by Schumers group.
    Neither of which will stop a single crime from occurring...
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Keeping a registry of law abiding gun owners is illegal, which is why the current NICS doesn't include registry, and why the expanded background checks will not include registry.

    Apparently, only you and few other sellers are worried about the $35 fee..................
    It appears that you are either being intentionally dense or do not know that NICS checks are done by the same folks (FFL dealers) that now keep the gun sales records. Using two related databases is simply the trick used to convince morons that registration is not the goal, that it is only a "private" function. One can say that FFL dealer records are not gov't records (like you pretend) and that they are only examined for specific things yet they are generally turned over to ATF (as well a state agencies).

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not at all, I am skeptical of your claim that it will include a registry and that it won't include exemptions.
    If I implied that ‘it will include a registry and that it won't include exemptions’ I apologize as it is not my point. The same article you walked out two weeks ago specifically pointed out that this was planned in the legislation. My argument is that the law will be effectively unenforceable without a registry and by including exemptions it fails the ‘universal’ part of the plan.

    It would seem more like entrapment to me if he didn't say he probably couldn't pass a background check.
    Actually no, the CURRENT law prescribes that you cannot KNOWINGLY sell a firearm to someone who you know or have reason to think the purchaser is ineligible. Those in the NYC ‘sting’ the seller was TOLD by the purchaser that he was ineligible. I did not see in the NYC study where the sellers were arrested and prosecuted. If we are not going to enforce the current laws why write new ones?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    Because no gun control will work if not implemented federally. Listen to police chiefs in cities like Chicago and Philly. The laws in those places don't matter when someone can just drive over to the next state and buy firearms.
    Oh yes, the old everyone is not doing what we doing so we are failing argument. Ignoring of course, that in those other areas gun violence per capita is no where near what it is in Chicago or Philly.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dammitboy! View Post
    Neither of which will stop a single crime from occurring...
    That is what 10% - 15% of voters that represent the far right believe.
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