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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I did. I've demonstrated to you that any bipartisan bill that gets passed will have exemptions which make your questions moot.
    OH, ok...so when I said 'If I sell one of these ‘unidentified’ firearms to my neighbor and he gets into an altercation with it then informs LEO’s that I sold it to him, I can merely deny it as it is his word against mine' I will get an exemption for that...COOL. Now answer 'Essentially what good is an unenforceable law?' and we will be all good!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    You're assuming ever criminal is smart and completely forgetting you can figure out what weapon and some times even the serial number from the bullets/shells. I wanna hear some suggestions from you guys because whether you agree with my proposals or not you aren't rational if you don't argue we have a problem we need to solve.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    OH, ok...so when I said 'If I sell one of these ‘unidentified’ firearms to my neighbor and he gets into an altercation with it then informs LEO’s that I sold it to him, I can merely deny it as it is his word against mine' I will get an exemption for that...COOL. Now answer 'Essentially what good is an unenforceable law?' and we will be all good!
    No what I am saying is that it is likely that a small number of individual sales will likely be exempted and is therefore a moot point. Only the far right think it will be unenforceable.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    Well if criminals aren't able to get guns at guns shows the same way they can't in gun shops then of course we'll see the murder rate go down. It's common sense. In the same way when one day someone threw a rock of an overpass and killed someone we now have barricades on all overpasses. In what way does doing nothing solve anything? And you wouldn't like me if I ran things. The one thing no one in DC mentions is how easy it is lie on a background check. Why don't we improve background checks. Base them around the polygraph so we can root out liars and the mentally unhealthy.
    that is horsecrap. there is no evidence that the Brady bill caused crime with guns to decrease.

    tell me how the war on drugs has prevented illegal narcotics transactions

    and why is it that almost every gun control fan on this board labels themselves far left?



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    Re: Universal background checks

    You're asking for magical solve all problems solution. I'm suggesting we curb the problem. There is no one solution but any solution is better than the way things are now.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No what I am saying is that it is likely that a small number of individual sales will likely be exempted and is therefore a moot point. Only the far right think it will be unenforceable.
    tell us how the far wrong thinks it will be enforced

    how can you prove when i sold someone a gun i have owned for years?

    the only way you can prove it is if the gun was made after the law was passed



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    So you agree that someone dangerous who couldn't buy a gun in a gun shop should be able to easily acquire one at a gun show and go and buy 6,000 rounds on ammo online with paper trail?
    Anyone who—through proper due process—can be established to be that dangerous, needs to be removed from free society. Such a person needs to either be put to death, or else confined to a prison or a mental hospital, as appropriate.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that isn't the parameter used to judge a law
    Show us where anytime in the last 19 years that background checks have been ruled to be an infringement of Constitutional rights?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    You're asking for magical solve all problems solution. I'm suggesting we curb the problem. There is no one solution but any solution is better than the way things are now.
    that's just stupid

    gun crime has been DECREASING even though the number of guns in private circulation has INCREASED



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Show us where anytime in the last 19 years that background checks have been ruled to be an infringement of Constitutional rights?
    what a silly argument. 8 years ago you would have brayed that DC's ban on handguns was not ruled unconstitutional



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