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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    As much as you hate it the mentally ill and felons are covered by the second amendment. Go right ahead and check it again if you want though.
    That doesn't advance the argument. If you or someone you know was a victim of gun violence there's question that your view would change immediately. Either that or you're one the mentally unhealthy who shouldn't have access to a weapon.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    That doesn't advance the argument. If you or someone you know was a victim of gun violence there's question that your view would change immediately. Either that or you're one the mentally unhealthy who shouldn't have access to a weapon.
    There is no way to know if my view would change, but I'm leaning heavily towards no judging it against other things that happened in my life and my views.
    Last edited by Henrin; 03-05-13 at 10:57 PM.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    1. You didn't respond to my questions.

    2. Didn't we discuss this article 2 WEEKS AGO when it was published? Has something changed or are you merely retreading a refuted source?

    I did. I've demonstrated to you that any bipartisan bill that gets passed will have exemptions which make your questions moot.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    You mean pointing out ambiguously worded poll questions, and poor sample size, or selected polling locations doesn't count? Hm? As with any "opinion" about law...show me a law that makes it through congress and I might care what a poll says. Btw polls are poor representation of opinions. You can only have a small selection of opinions that are not representative of your true opinion...or only represent a shadow of it. You trade quantity with quality if you like. I will stick with legislation and cold hard facts on the subject. And as usual I laugh at your enthusiasm for a completely unenforceable joke of a concept of legislation.

    I didn't ask for more far right opinion, I asked for a credible national poll that proves your opinion on background checks has any more than marginal support among voters.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    That doesn't advance the argument. If you or someone you know was a victim of gun violence there's question that your view would change immediately. Either that or you're one the mentally unhealthy who shouldn't have access to a weapon.
    that's silly. and since I shot my way out of a mugging I have a perspective I doubt you can fathom.


    the problem with the schemes that big government fans advance is that they mainly impact law abiding people (which of course is the intent anyway)



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I didn't ask for more far right opinion, I asked for a credible national poll that proves your opinion on background checks has any more than marginal support among voters.
    in other words you want the far wrong opinion



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    Re: Universal background checks

    So you agree that someone dangerous who couldn't buy a gun in a gun shop should be able to easily acquire one at a gun show and go and buy 6,000 rounds on ammo online with paper trail? And please provide your rational if you do. Oh and while we're arguing how to I start a new thread. I want people's ideas on we should do about the suicide epidemic we have in the US that none of the folks in DC seem to offer any solutions to?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I have said this countless times but I will repeat it once more. A "legal" gun buyer is simply an adult US citizen, that can pass an NICS BG check and may later wish to purchase a gun or ammo. Simply indicating on ALL state issued, photo IDs if that citizen is "GUN OK" after passing a NICS background check would suffice, it also makes it EASY to control (limit) ammo sales as well. This system works for driver's licenses, we do not retest each driver everytime they are stopped while driving, we simply check their ID, to see if they are allowed to drive. This system works for selling alcohol and tobacco, we simply look at the ID to determine if the buyer is of legal age. This system even works for cashing checks, boarding commercial aircraft and registering to vote - we simply look at the person's valid, state issued, photo ID and make informed decisions as to their identity and residence. Why we need to repeat this NICS BG status check at the point of sale, each time, and for ONLY guns is insane. The status can change from GUN OK to not so only after conviction for a felony (or drug charge), being adjudged mentally incompetent or serving a judges restraining (protection) order for domestic abuse; on those rare occasions, simply take away that person's state issued, photo ID and update the NICS database.

    Are you thinking your proposal is going to be adopted before the bipartisan bill that is being negotiated now?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    So you agree that someone dangerous who couldn't buy a gun in a gun shop should be able to easily acquire one at a gun show and go and buy 6,000 rounds on ammo online with paper trail? And please provide your rational if you do. Oh and while we're arguing how to I start a new thread. I want people's ideas on we should do about the suicide epidemic we have in the US that none of the folks in DC seem to offer any solutions to?
    why should there be a paper trail? and do you think gun shows have different rules than other places.

    Suicides are higher in gun free Japan



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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's silly. and since I shot my way out of a mugging I have a perspective I doubt you can fathom.


    the problem with the schemes that big government fans advance is that they mainly impact law abiding people (which of course is the intent anyway)
    So you lucked out man. Give me the number of folks who's lives are saved by guns and if it surpasses the 60,000 victims of weapons annually (I'm including suicides) then we can talk about how these policies will affect folks like you verses criminals and people who tragically took their own life.

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