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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    You know what? After thinking about it for a while, I can't think of any reason why there shouldn't be a background check for all firearm purchases.
    It creates a registry. Every country, every single country who has ever required gun registry, enacted gun confiscation within 3 decades of that registry.

    My state has no registration, and we have one of the lowest crime rates in the country.

    Crime is tied to the economy and family stability, not access to guns.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It creates a registry. Every country, every single country who has ever required gun registry, enacted gun confiscation within 3 decades of that registry.

    My state has no registration, and we have one of the lowest crime rates in the country.

    Crime is tied to the economy and family stability, not access to guns.
    Then we're way overdue. The Federal Firearms Act of 1938 required dealers to register for a Federal Firearms License at an annual cost of one dollar, and required that records be maintained of the name and address of all persons who purchased firearms. It also banned the sale of firearms to felons.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    I support it in principle. In fact I support a gun license. If you have a gun you are allowed to have it, but you need to carry a gun license. To get that gun license, you need to go through training and pass a test.

    Sure criminals can get guns anyway, but it will be harder for them to get a gun if only people who know what they are doing have guns. But different from places like Chicago where legal citizens are disarmed, they will still have to worry about someone pulling a gun against them. Also, it will be easier to disarm criminals, because they won't have a license. I believe legal trained civilians should have gun, because police is not always around. I do not believe anyone should have gun. You can't have a car without a license either.

    The problem is that my policies can never be implemented, because many liberals are in favour of banning all guns. Having a database on all legal guns in America will help them a lot if a gun ban is implemented. Hence secrecy is needed.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Then we're way overdue.
    Not so. Private sales were not required to record arms.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It creates a registry. Every country, every single country who has ever required gun registry, enacted gun confiscation within 3 decades of that registry.

    My state has no registration, and we have one of the lowest crime rates in the country.

    Crime is tied to the economy and family stability, not access to guns.


    NRA (and Jerry) Misfires on Federal Gun Registry

    "The head of the National Rifle Association misfires when he claims the president’s proposal to require background checks for all gun sales will result in a “massive federal registry” of firearms. Current law bars federal agencies from retaining records on those who pass background checks, and nothing in the president’s plan would change that."

    FactCheck.org : NRA Misfires on Federal Gun Registry
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not so. Private sales were not required to record arms.
    Licensed dealers were, and I'm willing to bet that licensed dealers sold a great deal more than private sellers. That makes the 30 year rule about 75 years overdue. We aren't other countries, we're the United States. No congress or president will ever be dumb enough to think gun confiscation will ever work.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If that was really true, then there would be no difficulty at all in getting the Constitution amended in order to supersede the Second Amendment, and to allow the right affirmed therein to be infringed to the degree of requiring these checks as a prerequisite for exercising that right. That no credible effort has been made to propose such an amendment proves that those who claim there is this much support are flat-out lying.
    You're ignoring what's going on with congress right now. Considering over half of republicans believe the earth is 10,000 years old shows they aren't the most rational group. In what way does expanding background checks impede on or supersede the 2nd amendment?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by sbrettt View Post
    In what way does expanding background checks impede on or supersede the 2nd amendment?
    It clearly would infringe on the people's right to keep and bear arms, which is what the Second Amendment explicitly forbids.

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    All the national polls show the same thing, which is why none of the far right on this forum has been a able to produce a single poll that says otherwise.
    Those on the far wrong deny proof which is right in front of their face, claiming that that proof does not exist.
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    Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    From your link, "The term "universal background checks," used by some gun control supporters, is code for closing federal loopholes so that such checks will be conducted at gun shows and other private sales."

    "Expanded background checks now enjoy the support of mayors in some of the largest cities in America. The idea has been embraced by gun violence survivor Gabrielle Giffords, a self-described gun owner.

    "This may be the single most important gun violence prevention measure that the government could adopt," said Lindsay Nichols, an attorney with the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "This loophole means that dangerous criminals and dangerously mentally ill individuals have a most unfettered access to firearms."


    No poll in your story there either to suggest there are is any opposition from the public to the expanded background checks except from the far right.
    Lol. Clearly you are so biased on this topic you can't decipher simple facts about how much of a joke your legislation idea is, and how it is laughs at by those with bad intent.
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