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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As far as anti-2nd amendment tards are concerned you are paranoid right wing extremist for opposing a universal background check and registrations even though these things have been used for confiscation in other countries.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    If you don't learn from mistakes made by others you will make them your self.
    if don't learn from lies in the past you will believe in that same lie in the future
    We don't even have to look at other countries where firearm registries are used to confiscate firearms or proposed laws to confiscate firearms.


    GunCite - Gun Control: gun registration;firearm registration
    Even in the United States, registration has been used to outlaw and confiscate firearms. In New York City, a registration system enacted in 1967 for long guns, was used in the early 1990s to confiscate lawfully owned semiautomatic rifles and shotguns. (Same source as previous paragraph) The New York City Council banned firearms that had been classified by the city as "assault weapons." This was done despite the testimony of Police Commissioner Lee Brown that no registered "assault weapon" had been used in a violent crime in the city. The 2,340 New Yorkers who had registered their firearms were notified that these firearms had to be surrendered, rendered inoperable, or taken out of the city. (NRA/ILA Fact Sheet: Firearms Registration: New York City's Lesson)
    More recently, California revoked a grace period for the registration of certain rifles (SKS Sporters) and declared that any such weapons registered during that period were illegal. (California Penal Code, Chapter 2.3, Roberti-Ross Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989 section 12281(f) ) In addition, California has prohibited certain semi-automatic long-rifles and pistols. Those guns currently owned, must be registered, and upon the death of the owner, either surrendered or moved out of state. (FAQ #13 from the California DOJ Firearms Division Page)



    California's state Senate Democrats roll out big gun control package - San Jose Mercury News
    The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation's strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state's 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the far right believe that background checks for a gun purchase violates the 4th Amendment, which is why in its 19 years of existence it has never been ruled to be unconstitutional.
    You're so far out of the mainstream that to you, the vast majority of Americans are “far right”. I'd certainly rather be on the “far right” side with most Americans than on the ”far wrong” side with you.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    90% of the country understands why it matters and my guess is the remaining 10% will never get it!
    Why are some people against universal background checks? What makes this any different than background checks for other reasons?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Roughly ninety percent of Americans support universal background checks. Do you?
    I find it questionable that 90% of people can agree on anything at all, let alone anything to do with guns.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You're so far out of the mainstream that to you, the vast majority of Americans are “far right”.
    You keep saying this as if you have yet been able to provide a poll that shows anything other than marginal opposition to background checks.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Glowpun View Post
    Why are some people against universal background checks? What makes this any different than background checks for other reasons?
    Less than 15% of voters are against universal background checks. But I have no idea why a few people think they are different from background checks for other reasons?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You keep saying this as if you have yet been able to provide a poll that shows anything other than marginal opposition to background checks.
    Look at the top of this page.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Look at the top of this page.
    You are kidding right? You would put more stock in a political forum poll over the Pew Research Center, Gallup and all the other polling organizations? Ha! So much for your credibility!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Earlier in this discussion ttwtt78640 had an idea that everyone when they got their
    Drivers license, would have a background check, if you passed, you got field entry on your
    license saying YES this person is allowed to buy guns, or NO gun sales allowed.
    Within about 6 years every adult, and all new drivers would be checked.
    This would also eliminate Government excuses for keeping some background check info.

    ttwtt78640 I apologize for my poor stating of your idea!
    There's already a kind of permit which exempts you from NICS at the point of sale, and it checks you're background a hell of a lot more often then once every 6 years.

    Try every day.

    If I take my DD214 to the sheriffs department I can have a similar icon placed on my drivers licence which lets others know I'm a veteran. It's a measure to prevent identity theft. Any entity which would need proof of my vet status can look at the icon instead of the very sensitive DD214. Same thing here. Simply manifest this permit as an icon on the drivers licence instead of a separate card. Same fees, same standards, same everything, only it's an icon instead of a card. No problem. If people want to tac on a 4/16/20/40hr class to that, great, but I'll expect to be able to buy modern assault rifles and never register them in return for the hassle.
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