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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My 4th Amendment rights. It's not the business of a Wal-Mart associate, when they run a background check on me.
    Who ruled that the 19 year old law requiring background checks was an infringement of 4th Amendment rights?
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    I'm not confused about the subject but merely made an observation that the participants on the CBS poll might not have understood what that poll question meant and on the PEW poll there is a question on the undisclosed questions may have influenced the poll. Even if there is popular support for background checks the type of implementation and the cost on the other hand may render it less popular. Also I do not need to show a contrarian poll but show the methodology in these polls render the results as questionable.
    Well thanks for your far right opinion. Now do you have a poll that backs up your opinion that background checks for all gun buyers is not supported by 85% - 90%? Because if you don't, all you have is your far right opinion.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well thanks for your far right opinion. Now do you have a poll that backs up your opinion that background checks for all gun buyers is not supported by 85% - 90%? Because if you don't, all you have is your far right opinion.
    Please do not call me far right. I'm a libertarian and I do not believe in big government and I believe it should be decentralized as much as possible. I do not need to show a counter poll all I have to show is the methodology that the pro polls used was wrong to make them non-valid.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Please do not call me far right. I'm a libertarian and I do not believe in big government and I believe it should be decentralized as much as possible. I do not need to show a counter poll all I have to show is the methodology that the pro polls used was wrong to make them non-valid.
    Libertarians are further right than Republicans on gun control. If you do not wish to be called far right, don't espouse far right views. If can not provide a single poll that backs up your opinion of public support, all you have is your far right opinion which is shared by less than 15% of voters.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Libertarians are further right than Republicans on gun control. If you do not wish to be called far right, don't espouse far right views. If can not provide a single poll that backs up your opinion of public support, all you have is your far right opinion which is shared by less than 15% of voters.
    The right/left spectrum does not apply to American Politics. This originated in Europe where different factions wanted to control the government. Libertarians want as little government as possible and want the control to be spread out as much as possible. Again I do not need a counter poll if such as one exists, I just need to show the poll is not valid due to the methodology that was used. One example is that in the PEW poll the majority of the polled were not parents (non parents 1140 to parents 357) and is thus is skewed to households that do not have children in them. On the surface that shouldn't affect results on the question but does mean the methodology used caused the sample to be skewed. And if it is skewed where it is obvious then it may be skewed where it is less obvious.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The right/left spectrum does not apply to American Politics. This originated in Europe where different factions wanted to control the government. Libertarians want as little government as possible and want the control to be spread out as much as possible. Again I do not need a counter poll if such as one exists, I just need to show the poll is not valid due to the methodology that was used. One example is that in the PEW poll the majority of the polled were not parents (non parents 1140 to parents 357) and is thus is skewed to households that do not have children in them. On the surface that shouldn't affect results on the question but does mean the methodology used caused the sample to be skewed. And if it is skewed where it is obvious then it may be skewed where it is less obvious.
    Thanks for your far right opinion of public support that you are unable to back up with proof!
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Ridiculous argument! Who does "all potential gun buyers" not cover?
    Everyone is a “potential gun buyer”. Everyone who might ever buy a gun, even those who have no current plans to do so. So, should government have the authority to conduct background checks on everyone? So much for the Fourth Amendment. But then I suppose it would be foolish to assume that you care about the Fourth Amendment or the rest of the Bill of Rights any more than you care about the Second Amendment.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I told you it was just above. Too much work to look back eh?

    Here you go.



    All the polls show the same results. In fact, I challenge you to find a single national poll that shows a majority of voters oppose background checks for all potential gun buyers. I'll wait.
    Look at the top of this page.
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    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who ruled that the 19 year old law requiring background checks was an infringement of 4th Amendment rights?
    Someone has to rule it to be an infringement of the 4th Amendment for me to have an opinion?

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    Re: Universal background checks

    61% against
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