View Poll Results: Do you support universal background checks?

Voters
149. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    68 45.64%
  • No

    81 54.36%
Page 16 of 77 FirstFirst ... 614151617182666 ... LastLast
Results 151 to 160 of 764

Thread: Universal background checks

  1. #151
    Sage
    Cephus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    CA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,803

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What makes you possibly think that criminals are not taking advantage of the cheap and easy gun purchases at gun shows and online? Our goal is to make it more difficult and expensive for criminals to get guns than merely strolling into a gun show, plopping down some cash, and walking out with a gun.
    These are people who are STEALING guns and buying them on the black market! Geez, you people are delusional.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

    Blog me! YouTube me! VidMe me!

  2. #152
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    These are people who are STEALING guns and buying them on the black market! Geez, you people are delusional.
    As most of us are aware and law enforcement has explained, many of the guns on the black market come from private sellers at gun shows and online.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  3. #153
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,772

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What makes you possibly think that criminals are not taking advantage of the cheap and easy gun purchases at gun shows and online? Our goal is to make it more difficult and expensive for criminals to get guns than merely strolling into a gun show, plopping down some cash, and walking out with a gun.
    more speculation on your part

    a DOJ study of actual criminals who had weapons indicated less than 1% got their guns at a gun show



  4. #154
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,772

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As most of us are aware and law enforcement has explained, many of the guns on the black market come from private sellers at gun shows and online.
    that is a lie-online gun sales have to be through a FFL



  5. #155
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is a lie-online gun sales have to be through a FFL
    What laws prevent someone from placing an ad online to sell a gun privately without a background check?
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  6. #156
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,772

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What laws prevent someone from placing an ad online to sell a gun privately without a background check?
    that isn't a sale online. that would be a sale in person.



  7. #157
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more speculation on your part

    a DOJ study of actual criminals who had weapons indicated less than 1% got their guns at a gun show

    "At some shows in Reno,
    Nevada, which is a short distance across the border, more than 30% of the
    vehicles in the parking lot were
    from California (Wintemute 2007). Such undermining
    of more rigorous regulation in some states by lack of regulation in
    others has long been an argument for more rigorous regulation at the federal
    level. However, an unexpected finding suggests diffusion of benefit. Though surrogate, or “straw man,” purchases are illegal nationwide under federal law,
    they were
    more than six times as common in the comparison states as in
    California (Wintemute 2007).


    Commenting on this study, Shooting Sports Retailer, a firearm industry trade
    magazine, agreed that “there is some evidence that gun shows with restrictive
    regulations mandating background checks have less illegal activity than shows
    in states or jurisdictions without this requirement” (Matthews 2009)."


    From the Report: Reducing Gun Violence in America - UC Davis Health System

    www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/.../webster%20reducing%20gun%20violence%20in%20america %20chapter%..
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  8. #158
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,772

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "At some shows in Reno,
    Nevada, which is a short distance across the border, more than 30% of the
    vehicles in the parking lot were
    from California (Wintemute 2007). Such undermining
    of more rigorous regulation in some states by lack of regulation in
    others has long been an argument for more rigorous regulation at the federal
    level. However, an unexpected finding suggests diffusion of benefit. Though surrogate, or “straw man,” purchases are illegal nationwide under federal law,
    they were
    more than six times as common in the comparison states as in
    California (Wintemute 2007).


    Commenting on this study, Shooting Sports Retailer, a firearm industry trade
    magazine, agreed that “there is some evidence that gun shows with restrictive
    regulations mandating background checks have less illegal activity than shows
    in states or jurisdictions without this requirement” (Matthews 2009)."


    www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/.../webster%20reducing%20gun%20violence%20in%20america %20chapter%..
    I go to gun shows monthly. I may have bought one gun in the last two years at one

    the rest of your post is speculation



  9. #159
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that isn't a sale online. that would be a sale in person.
    That doesn't change the fact that guns being advertised online are being bought without a background check.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  10. #160
    Sage
    blackjack50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:32 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,388

    Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What laws prevent someone from placing an ad online to sell a gun privately without a background check?
    So you don't know how all this works then?

    1) you put the ad online.

    2)Someone responds. Pays through pay pal or whatever.

    Only 2 ways to get that gun.

    3a) private transfer between 2 people.

    3b) mail it.

    3b requires an FFL by law.

    A law is in place. If it isn't working...we don't need more laws. We need enforcement of the law on the book.
    The Crowd is not the sum of its parts.

Page 16 of 77 FirstFirst ... 614151617182666 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •