View Poll Results: Do you support universal background checks?

Voters
149. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    68 45.64%
  • No

    81 54.36%
Page 13 of 77 FirstFirst ... 311121314152363 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 764

Thread: Universal background checks

  1. #121
    Sage
    Cephus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    CA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,797

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Private Gun Sale Loophole Creates Invisible Firearms Market, Prompts Calls For Reform

    "The vast majority of states have no regulations whatsoever on private gun sales, except for vague statutes that prohibit "knowingly" selling firearms to someone who is a criminal or has mental health problems.

    Experts argue that the laws create incentives for buyers and sellers in private transactions to find out as little as possible about one another.

    "Everybody understands how the game is played: the seller never asks any questions," said Dr. Garen Wintemute, who has researched the gun market as director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California-Davis Health System. "At a gun show the sign on the table says 'private sale,' and everybody knows exactly what that means. It means no waiting period, no background check, no questions asked, cash and a handshake, and you're gone."

    Private Gun Sale Loophole Creates Invisible Firearms Market, Prompts Calls For Reform
    And like it or not, there's really no way to change that and pretending otherwise is pointless.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

    Blog me! YouTube me! VidMe me!

  2. #122
    Sage
    blackjack50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:10 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,386

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is not against the law to fail a background check, it is only against the law to lie on a background check.




    Yes!

    "Gun violence in the United States can be substantially reduced if Congress expands requirements for background checks on retail gun sales to cover firearm transfers between private parties, a new report by the director of the UC Davis Violence Prevention Research Program concludes.

    The report "Background Checks for Firearm Transfers" by Garen Wintemute, who also serves as a professor of emergency medicine, notes that 40 percent of U.S. gun transactions occur between unlicensed private parties, such as people buying and selling at gun shows. That figure doubles, to more than 80 percent, for firearm sales that involve criminal intent.

    Private-party transactions make up an often overlooked, thriving secondary gun market that is exempt from background checks and other controls designed to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals and others prohibited from legally purchasing a gun.

    By creating a single, equitable structure governing all retail commerce in firearms, Congress could make it harder for criminals to obtain guns, substantially reduce firearm-related violence, and curb the large-volume gun purchases that result in firearm trafficking, Wintemute said.

    The report comes on the heels of the Newtown, Conn., massacre, in which 20 children and six adults were shot at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Since that December tragedy, President Obama has made gun violence a top priority and is pushing lawmakers to tighten gun laws and take other steps to reduce future violence.

    While shootings such as the Newtown episode intensify public concern, statistics show gun violence is an everyday, serious threat to the nation's health and safety. In 2012, there were an estimated 467,321 firearm-related violent crimes in the U.S., a 26 percent increase since 2008. There were 11,101 firearm homicides that year, and an estimated 55,544 injuries resulting from gun-related assaults requiring treatment in hospital emergency departments.

    Wintemute's study provides an in-depth look at procedures governing gun purchases and the double standard that distinguishes rules for retail sales from those covering private-party transactions.

    A buyer at a retail establishment, for example, must complete a lengthy Firearms Transaction Record and certify that he is buying the gun for himself and is not a member of any of the prohibited groups as defined by federal statute. The retailer must then submit the buyer's identifying information to the FBI to check for a criminal history and verify the buyer's eligibility to purchase firearms, a process typically completed in minutes.

    "These procedural safeguards are intended to ensure that the buyer is who he says he is, that he and not someone else will be the actual owner of the firearm, and that he is not prohibited from owning it," Wintemute said. "They help prevent the large-volume purchasing that otherwise might fuel trafficking operations. They establish a chain of ownership that will help law enforcement authorities link the firearm to the buyer if it is used in a crime later."

    A private party, by contrast, is permitted to sell guns with none of these federal safeguards in place. There are no forms to fill out, no records to be kept, and no requirement that a buyer show identification or submit to a background check.

    In addition to background checks to identify prohibited persons and deter those with criminal intent, Wintemute recommends establishing a permanent record for each firearm transferred between private parties, thus creating a chain of ownership. Such records have proven to be of great help to law enforcement agencies as they investigate individual crimes and seek to disrupt firearm trafficking networks.

    To maximize the potential of the current background check system, he also recommends greater efforts to improve the three FBI databases -- the Interstate Identification Index, National Crime Information Center and the National Interstate Criminal Background Check System -- on which background checks rely. Improved reporting of criminal convictions, domestic violence restraining orders and prohibiting mental health events is most important.

    "The widespread unavailability of records seriously compromises the effectiveness of our current background-check process," Wintemute said. "I am actually very optimistic that the nation will adopt a comprehensive background check policy in this Congress, where there has been a bipartisan expression of support for such a proposal. Six states have adopted such policies, and we know they work."
    University of California - UC Newsroom | Report: More background checks would cut gun violence
    So. What you are saying is that there is no definitive proof about private checks? Or about the enforcement of them?

    Are you even aware of what it would take to enforce private sale background checks? Law enforcement would have to start buying guns privately...stings. How does that work for drugs?
    The Crowd is not the sum of its parts.

  3. #123
    Electrician
    Bob Blaylock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    North 38°28′ West 121°26′
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    13,745

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    despite over 500 posts braying how great a UBC would be, Catawba has never come close to actually posting any PROOF that the UBC would decrease crime
    Defining something as a “crime” that shouldn't be, can only increase crime.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

  4. #124
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And like it or not, there's really no way to change that and pretending otherwise is pointless.
    Requiring background checks by private sellers at gun shows and online is doable and would go a long way in reducing that invisible firearms market.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  5. #125
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,746

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Retired Generals and Admirals Demand a Plan to End Gun Violence

    "Generals and Admirals know about guns. They've been in the line of fire while protecting our country and preserving our freedoms - and now they're demanding that Congress take action to enact common sense gun laws that will prevent violence and save lives."

    See video at link above.
    LOL generals and admirals know squat when it comes to civilian firearms use. these appear to be a bunch of leftwing has beens.



  6. #126
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,746

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Requiring background checks by private sellers at gun shows and online is doable and would go a long way in reducing that invisible firearms market.
    You keep spewing this idiocy without ever establishing any factual support

    do you think your pathetically weak arguments actually helps your cause of disarming the public?



  7. #127
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    So. What you are saying is that there is no definitive proof about private checks? Or about the enforcement of them?

    Are you even aware of what it would take to enforce private sale background checks? Law enforcement would have to start buying guns privately...stings. How does that work for drugs?


    No, what I am saying is what the new report that you ignored, stated:

    "The report "Background Checks for Firearm Transfers" by Garen Wintemute, who also serves as a professor of emergency medicine, notes that 40 percent of U.S. gun transactions occur between unlicensed private parties, such as people buying and selling at gun shows. That figure doubles, to more than 80 percent, for firearm sales that involve criminal intent."

    "By creating a single, equitable structure governing all retail commerce in firearms, Congress could make it harder for criminals to obtain guns, substantially reduce firearm-related violence, and curb the large-volume gun purchases that result in firearm trafficking, Wintemute said."
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  8. #128
    Disappointed Evolutionist
    Catawba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Last Seen
    05-28-13 @ 08:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    27,254

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL generals and admirals know squat when it comes to civilian firearms use. these appear to be a bunch of leftwing has beens.

    Let's see, that's generals, admirals, 80% of Republicans, and 85% of independents, all further to the left than you. Big surprise there!
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

  9. #129
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,746

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let's see, that's generals, admirals, 80% of Republicans, and 85% of independents, all further to the left than you. Big surprise there!
    you have never come close to explaining why that matters



  10. #130
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    07-25-17 @ 12:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    5,878

    Re: Universal background checks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, what I am saying is what the new report that you ignored, stated:

    "The report "Background Checks for Firearm Transfers" by Garen Wintemute, who also serves as a professor of emergency medicine, notes that 40 percent of U.S. gun transactions occur between unlicensed private parties, such as people buying and selling at gun shows. That figure doubles, to more than 80 percent, for firearm sales that involve criminal intent."

    "By creating a single, equitable structure governing all retail commerce in firearms, Congress could make it harder for criminals to obtain guns, substantially reduce firearm-related violence, and curb the large-volume gun purchases that result in firearm trafficking, Wintemute said."
    Unfortunately you neglected to quote this:

    In addition to background checks to identify prohibited persons and deter those with criminal intent, Wintemute recommends establishing a permanent record for each firearm transferred between private parties, thus creating a chain of ownership. Such records have proven to be of great help to law enforcement agencies as they investigate individual crimes and seek to disrupt firearm trafficking networks.
    This sure sounds like a registry. You know the kind of registry that was proclaimed a non-starter in the MANY links you have provided optimistically promoting the 'closeness' of Senate legislation...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

Page 13 of 77 FirstFirst ... 311121314152363 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •