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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They would live in different communities. Just like now there are apartment buildings that are specifically for Section 8 housing recipients.



    I don't really see the need for this, unless there is some history of neglect/abuse.



    Well, if it would be too expensive, then I would suggest sticking with food stamps.



    I don't think it would be possible to have ALL of the welfare recipients in one community sharing one building. In my town, we have several low-income/Section 8 apartment buildings.
    Then how is this any different form Section 8 housing and the initial suggestion of community based shelters?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Then how is this any different form Section 8 housing and the initial suggestion of community based shelters?
    The proposal was that we do away with whole welfare system and instead set people up in these apartments where all expenses are paid for them instead of them receiving cash. It actually is DA60's proposal, but I thought it made a lot of sense. As it is now, people get cash and are responsible for paying their own bills, and the waiting list for Section 8 is outrageously long.

    IMO, this plan would not only save US money but would help the recipients as well, as apartments are expensive nowadays, and hard to afford without a Section 8 voucher.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Section 8 is crap. Build a glorified homeless shelter with plenty of cots and a bathroom to share, and ship them there.

    You shouldn't even be within earshot of the American dream if you're living on the dole.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    It would also help to make SURE that the children's basic needs were being met. The kids are the ones I care about.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The proposal was that we do away with whole welfare system and instead set people up in these apartments where all expenses are paid for them instead of them receiving cash. It actually is DA60's proposal, but I thought it made a lot of sense. As it is now, people get cash and are responsible for paying their own bills, and the waiting list for Section 8 is outrageously long.

    IMO, this plan would not only save US money but would help the recipients as well, as apartments are expensive nowadays, and hard to afford without a Section 8 voucher.
    Then expanding section 8 would be the answer, yes? They are apartment units set aside by owners of the building and paid for with vouchers, am I right? All over any particular city?

    Food stamps stay in place, as we just agreed?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It would also help to make SURE that the children's basic needs were being met. The kids are the ones I care about.
    How is that accomplished?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Then expanding section 8 would be the answer, yes? They are apartment units set aside by owners of the building and paid for with vouchers, am I right? All over any particular city?

    Food stamps stay in place, as we just agreed?
    Well, I think it sounds like a good idea. I think it would save money because instead of printing and mailing out all individual checks, people could be set up in these apartments that are all expenses paid.

    I don't see too much of an issue with food stamps. People DO sell them for cash sometimes, for cigarettes or whatever though. So, there would be no guarantees that the children are being fed properly.

    I also think recipients should have to either attend school or some job training program while they are collecting. It's the only way to make your life better. Otherwise, they would just be on the system/off the system, like a yo-yo.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    How is that accomplished?
    Exactly as my post #742 says.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, I think it sounds like a good idea. I think it would save money because instead of printing and mailing out all individual checks, people could be set up in these apartments that are all expenses paid.

    I don't see too much of an issue with food stamps. People DO sell them for cash sometimes, for cigarettes or whatever though. So, there would be no guarantees that the children are being fed properly.

    I also think recipients should have to either attend school or some job training program while they are collecting. It's the only way to make your life better. Otherwise, they would just be on the system/off the system, like a yo-yo.
    It's not the savings from the elimination of printing and mailing you are really after though, yes? You are more concerned with welfare being spent on housing, gas and lights? This is what you mean by insuring children's needs are met?

    I would agree to requiring school or training, for free, with accommodations for the working poor and child care.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    It's not the savings from the elimination of printing and mailing you are really after though, yes? You are more concerned with welfare being spent on housing, gas and lights? This is what you mean by insuring children's needs are met?
    Yes, to me, that is the whole point of welfare. The children's needs. They are usually the ones who end up suffering . . . one way or another.

    I would agree to requiring school or training, for free, with accommodations for the working poor and child care.
    I really like the idea and it's nice to agree. I don't know how economically feasible it is though. I think it would help out in the long run to create more productive people and have less people stuck in a cycle of poverty. Granted there will always be poor people though.

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