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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    These government tit suckers are draining the coffers dry right along with the corporate bail outs and illegal wars. The government needs to be downsized. And people apparently need incentive to do what even animals manage: maintain their own family.
    I'm not sure that sterilizations, licenses, or birth control are actually incentivizing. It seems to me to just be getting the results you want from the start.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You can have as many children as you like as long as you don't expect anyone else to support them

    or are you implying that we should be expected to support everyone's children?
    Should've stopped there. Expectations of the parents don't come into the picture at all.

    I'm implying that your best course of action would be to contact your local congressman and urge him to tear down these safety nets you so detest. That's well within the law and slightly more practical than some of the suggestions tossed about here.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There is no "right" to have other people pay for your children, and nobody is being denied the "right" to have a child. They ARE not forced to take public assistance of course.
    I agree completely there is no right to welfare and as I have told you before I'm against the welfare state. However, people do have a right to make these kind of decisions on their body.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Strangely enough, the only liberties being tossed about as ripe for removal have precisely nothing to do with security.
    bzzzzzt.. wrong.

    The security I'm referring to is food, shelter, and the right to be comfortable among other things. This is the mindset of 21st century America. Sit back and relax. Someone else will get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You're missing the entire point which is, if you can't afford children you need to do what you can to not having any(more). It's really a simple concept...
    Apparently, it would be easier to teach a dog algorithms. The concept of budgeting money and having only the children one can afford is too difficult and unreasonable.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You're missing the entire point which is, if you can't afford children you need to do what you can to not having any(more). It's really a simple concept...
    Think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit here. Most who can tell their behind from a hole in the ground would advise not to have children you can't afford. The solution being prescribed is the clog in the pipes for most here.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Should've stopped there. Expectations of the parents don't come into the picture at all.

    I'm implying that your best course of action would be to contact your local congressman and urge him to tear down these safety nets you so detest. That's well within the law and slightly more practical than some of the suggestions tossed about here.
    I asked for your thoughts relating to the question, not what you think myself or anyone else should do about the issue...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    didnt YOU say drug abuse while pregnant is NOT illegal in all states?
    Well id support making it illegal in all states

    as far as PREVENTION i said probably none, its not pulling teeth you just arent getting the answer you want.
    There are probably few things id support in prevention, not a legal path id want the government to take or be involved in.
    My god. You cannot answer a simple question and are being completely evasive.

    Last try to get a specific answer from you. Literally what would you support happening in the case of a pregnant woman who is addicted to/abusing substances? What precisely would happen to her that would protect her fetus from further abuse? Imprisonment for example? Involuntary commitment? What?

    You give suggestions and ill tell you if id support it cause i got nothing.
    Jesus. Back and forth, back and forth. You would not support anything that you can think of to prevent fetal harm... but you think it's wrong and would support "steps being taken..." Then you just suggest it should simply be illegal, as though that will change anything... now you're saying "I got nothing."

    I'm gonna have to give up. This is a waste of time trying to get you to comprehend and answer a simple question of what should be done specifically to prevent an addict from damaging her fetus.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Should've stopped there. Expectations of the parents don't come into the picture at all.

    I'm implying that your best course of action would be to contact your local congressman and urge him to tear down these safety nets you so detest. That's well within the law and slightly more practical than some of the suggestions tossed about here.
    Most people don't have a problem with giving charity and a helping hand. However, we expect a person who is receiving help to exercise common sense, and if they cannot do that then perhaps they need a little push in the right direction, so to speak.

    I don't want to do away with the welfare program. I just want people to use it the way it was meant to be used, which is a temporary helping hand for your existing family; not to support you indefinitely while you continue to have children and bring them into a bad situation. That's just dumb.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I agree completely there is no right to welfare and as I have told you before I'm against the welfare state. However, people do have a right to make these kind of decisions on their body.
    People seem to forget that nothing in life is guaranteed. Not even your next breath. So how is it reasonable in this world to be able to have as many children as you'd like without the consequences involved? People should be free to have how ever many children they are capable of supporting without gov assistance. No more.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    1.)My god. You cannot answer a simple question and are being completely evasive.

    2.)Last try to get a specific answer from you. Literally what would you support happening in the case of a pregnant woman who is addicted to/abusing substances? What precisely would happen to her that would protect her fetus from further abuse? Imprisonment for example? Involuntary commitment? What?



    3.)Jesus. Back and forth, back and forth. You would not support anything that you can think of to prevent fetal harm...
    4.)but you think it's wrong and would support "steps being taken..." Then you just suggest it should simply be illegal, as though that will change anything... now you're saying "I got nothing."

    5.)I'm gonna have to give up. This is a waste of time trying to get you to comprehend and answer a simple question of what should be done specifically to prevent an addict from damaging her fetus.
    1.) this is 100% false

    how could an answer be any more clear than probably none? LMAO

    2.) gee look, you are doing what i asked since my answer isnt changing simply because you want it too, GOOD BOY lol
    BUT you feel AGAIN

    like i already said, as far as PREVENTION is concerned NOTHING, i cant think of anything id want the government to do.

    what arent you getting LMAO

    3.) there is no back and fourth, its you begging for me to change my answer
    4.) yes step after birth but not before it
    babie dies or is still born due to drug abuse, yes prison or confiscation of child etc but not before birth. Have no clue what you dont get
    5.) I gave the answer like 5 times, you dont like LOL thats your fault not mine.
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