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Thread: A license to have children [W:81]

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Another angle to look at it from is to ask yourself what is the MAIN cause of crime in our country? Poverty. Where do you think gang members who are shooting and killing each other and other innocent people come from? Why on earth wouldn't we do everything in our power to discourage that cycle and to NOT enable it to continue.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, there are plenty of "poor" people who don't collect welfare. As if requiring birth control is "class warfare." Give me a break.
    The proposals being tossed about in this thread are based around said individual's participation in supplementary assistance programs, all of which have designated income requirements. Arbitrarily restricting the reproductive rights of only those with incomes that fall below that threshold is a class based approach, and a crude one at that.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    With government provided security, we forfeit liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is how this works sadly. Once they collect or even attempt to collect their rights and liberties are forfeit. Again, this has been shown many times over and this is really no different. It a bit more alarming perhaps, sure, but you will notice it's really just more of the same old thing.
    There is no "right" to have other people pay for your children, and nobody is being denied the "right" to have a child. They ARE not forced to take public assistance of course.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    What about kids divorcing bad parents... I mean I know some do, but not near enough.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    With government provided security, we forfeit liberty.
    Strangely enough, the only liberties being tossed about as ripe for removal have precisely nothing to do with security.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    The proposals being tossed about in this thread are based around said individual's participation in supplementary assistance programs, all of which have designated income requirements. Arbitrarily restricting the reproductive rights of only those with incomes that fall below that threshold is a class based approach, and a crude one at that.
    You're missing the entire point which is, if you can't afford children you need to do what you can to not having any(more). It's really a simple concept...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There is no "right" to have other people pay for your children, and nobody is being denied the "right" to have a child. They ARE not forced to take public assistance of course.
    Why do people think it's their god given right to receive welfare? What a pathetic mindset. It's an entire generation of entitlement hogs.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Can you please be a little more specific? Drug possession is generally already illegal. What actual steps would be taken to prevent an addict mother from further damaging her fetus? Jail? Involuntary commitment?

    It's like pulling teeth here.
    didnt YOU say drug abuse while pregnant is NOT illegal in all states?
    Well id support making it illegal in all states

    as far as PREVENTION i said probably none, its not pulling teeth you just arent getting the answer you want.
    There are probably few things id support in prevention, not a legal path id want the government to take or be involved in.

    You give suggestions and ill tell you if id support it cause i got nothing. Id support things later but not before probably in most cases.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Why do people think it's their god given right to receive welfare? What a pathetic mindset. It's an entire generation of entitlement hogs.
    We're actually working on the third generation...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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