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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    A person impaired by a drug habit.
    This person should be OK to have kids, eh?

    The woman who runs that "charity" doesn't even care if they use the $300 on drugs. To my mind, that's exploiting a debilitated person.
    I lot of liberals don't seem to care if all the welfare help out there enables people to devote more resources toward their drug habit. To my mind, welfare does at least as much harm to active addicts as this charity, except this charity prevents harm in the process as well, whereas welfare doesn't.

    How would you feel if you saw a mother injecting its baby with heroin or force-feeding it alcohol? Would that mother's reproductive rights be more important than the baby's right not to have that harm done it it?

    I sincerely hope, the practice dies.
    I know your view. Reproduction is sacrosanct. FASD, substance-induced static encephalopathy, babies born addicted to drugs, etc. are all less important than people's fertility.

    I sincerely hope Project Prevention is promulgated and replicated all over the world. I plan to donate.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    I am quite the modest man, so I would propose that breeding licenses be restricted to those whose IQ exceeds their weight.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I am quite the modest man, so I would propose that breeding licenses be restricted to those whose IQ exceeds their weight.

    Building a better tomorrow through smarter, smaller people, you know.
    Interesting slogan. Considering the resultant fat rich/smart people and skinny poor/unintelligent people, I'd say the slogan could be "Look the part."

    Aw man, even I feel bad after that one.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    This person should be OK to have kids, eh?



    I lot of liberals don't seem to care if all the welfare help out there enables people to devote more resources toward their drug habit. To my mind, welfare does at least as much harm to active addicts as this charity, except this charity prevents harm in the process as well, whereas welfare doesn't.

    How would you feel if you saw a mother injecting its baby with heroin or force-feeding it alcohol? Would that mother's reproductive rights be more important than the baby's right not to have that harm done it it?



    I know your view. Reproduction is sacrosanct. FASD, substance-induced static encephalopathy, babies born addicted to drugs, etc. are all less important than people's fertility.

    I sincerely hope Project Prevention is promulgated and replicated all over the world. I plan to donate.
    Honestly, it's like some people could care less about the poor babies born into poverty, neglectful and abusive situations just as long as the woman has her right to reproduce or abort.

    It's obvious that some people care much more about a woman's "reproductive rights" than bringing a child into a miserable situation.

    Apparently, some people are just able to overlook such things and say to hell with the children and to hell with everyone else because NOTHING else is as important as that individual's reproductive rights. That's bull****!

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Everyone has a right to these until they expect anyone else to pay for the choice(s) made..
    Yes! Great point!

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Plain and simple, the government doesn't have a right, should never have the right, to force medical procedure on us, no matter how upset you are about welfare.

    That social experimentation was tried, abused and ended.
    Welfare as it is now has been tried and abused as well. Time for a different tactic.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Here are some interesting stats about welfare and welfare recipients. These stats have been verified as of 2012.

    Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

    Welfare Statistics
    Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000
    Total number of Americans on food stamps 46,700,000
    Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance 5,600,000
    Percent of the US population on welfare 4.1 %
    Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion

    Welfare Demographics
    Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
    Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
    Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
    Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
    Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

    Welfare Statistics
    Total amount of money you can make monthly and still receive Welfare $1000
    Total Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than an $8 per hour job 40
    Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than a $12 per hour job 7
    Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher 9

    Average Time on AFCD (Aid to Families with Dependent Children)
    Time on AFDC Percent of Recipients
    Less than 7 months 19%
    7 to 12 months 15.2%
    1 to 2 years 19.3%
    2 to 5 years 26.9%
    Over 5 years 19.6%

    Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.
    State Hourly Wage Equivalent
    Hawaii $17.50
    Alaska $15.48
    Massachusetts $14.66
    Connecticut $14.23
    Washington, D.C. $13.99
    New York $13.13
    New Jersey $12.55
    Rhode Island $12.55
    California $11.59
    Virginia $11.11

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Here are some interesting stats about welfare and welfare recipients. These stats have been verified as of 2012.

    Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain

    Welfare Statistics
    Total number of Americans on welfare 4,300,000
    Total number of Americans on food stamps 46,700,000
    Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance 5,600,000
    Percent of the US population on welfare 4.1 %
    Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment) $131.9 billion

    Welfare Demographics
    Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
    Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
    Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
    Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
    Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

    Welfare Statistics
    Total amount of money you can make monthly and still receive Welfare $1000
    Total Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than an $8 per hour job 40
    Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than a $12 per hour job 7
    Number of U.S. States where Welfare pays more than the average salary of a U.S. Teacher 9

    Average Time on AFCD (Aid to Families with Dependent Children)
    Time on AFDC Percent of Recipients
    Less than 7 months 19%
    7 to 12 months 15.2%
    1 to 2 years 19.3%
    2 to 5 years 26.9%
    Over 5 years 19.6%

    Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.
    State Hourly Wage Equivalent
    Hawaii $17.50
    Alaska $15.48
    Massachusetts $14.66
    Connecticut $14.23
    Washington, D.C. $13.99
    New York $13.13
    New Jersey $12.55
    Rhode Island $12.55
    California $11.59
    Virginia $11.11
    Seems to me that one important stat was left out.

    Number of children in welfare families. 1.9

    Compare that to the number of children families have who are not on welfare....

    Yep it is the same 1.9
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Honestly, it's like some people could care less about the poor babies born into poverty, neglectful and abusive situations just as long as the woman has her right to reproduce or abort.

    It's obvious that some people care much more about a woman's "reproductive rights" than bringing a child into a miserable situation.

    Apparently, some people are just able to overlook such things and say to hell with the children and to hell with everyone else because NOTHING else is as important as that individual's reproductive rights. That's bull****!

    Speaking for myself and I am sure there are many more of us who are very concerned about the babies born in poverty.


    I posted links to a couple of articles about long term birth control for both men and women.


    I will support offering and encouraging long term birth control but I will not support taking away ones right to privacy
    Or to body soverinty.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Seems to me that one important stat was left out.

    Number of children in welfare families. 1.9

    Compare that to the number of children families have who are not on welfare....

    Yep it is the same 1.9
    I heard the average for people not on welfare was 1.86. That is NOT the same. Also, that is really irrelevant. MANY welfare recipients have MORE than 1 or 2 children. That is only an average. Therefore, irrelevant. My point is mandatory long-term BC for people who are currently receiving welfare benefits. Now what is the problem with that?

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