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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You people? Who would that be?

    Here's a choice. Mother of children on welfare can't currently survive without the benefits. You say, alright..here's a choice. You either become homeless, starving, and unable to support your children at all....or you let our doctors get inside there and prevent you from ever again becoming a mother.

    What a choice.
    Imagine a world where people didn't have children they couldn't afford. How unfair.

    In a society that didn't hand out entitlements out like herpes at a frat party, her kids would likely die anyhow. It's real simple: people need to support the kids they already have instead of having more for everyone else to support. It's rather sad that this concept is considered "coercion."

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You have no dominion over their body. That is my response.
    Exactly.
    Right to privacy and right to body soverinty.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Exactly.
    Right to privacy and right to body soverinty.
    I have a right to not pay for their poor choices.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Exactly.
    Right to privacy and right to body soverinty.
    Everyone has a right to these until they expect anyone else to pay for the choice(s) made..
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, who says it would have to have social workers? As it is now we just give them money, food stamps and housing. Why not just have shelters that are more like housing units with some kind of food delivery service? They don't really need a babysitter per se; just to ensure that the money is being spent on shelter, clothing and food for themselves and the children. I think that was the idea DA had.
    In order to run any facility like that, there has to be a staff to accept or deny entry. There has to be maintenance of the buildings. If you expect them to leave, they have to have, as Viktyr said, case managers and social workers to help in getting people back on their feet and out the doors.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    A mother with a gun to her head in the form of permanently giving up her fertility or feeding her child is not coercion?
    Having children is a right. Getting government support for them is not.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Imagine a world where people didn't have children they couldn't afford. How unfair.
    I did. I started researching the late 19th century and early 20th century. That was their goal too, advocating draconian measures as well. That's why I am drastically opposed to such measures being imposed ever again.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, not when she expects someone else to support them...
    Indeed it is coercion. As soon as it becomes either/or.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I did. I started researching the late 19th century and early 20th century. That was their goal too, advocating draconian measures as well. That's why I am drastically opposed to such measures being imposed ever again.
    So you believe these people are entitled to government hand outs, no expectations, no strings attached.

    That mentality is just as dangerous as eugenics.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    So you believe these people are entitled to government hand outs, no expectations, no strings attached.

    That mentality is just as dangerous as eugenics.
    They have strings attached. They just don't have crazy people wanting to gut them up like a 6th grade biology classroom.

    If you think that is just as dangerous as massive sterilizations, then I suggest you find a time machine to 1930s Germany and stay put.
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