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Thread: A license to have children [W:81]

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    So let me recap a bit here.

    1. Everyone, before getting pregnant has to get a license. The procedure and qualifications for which have not been discussed in much detail, as far as I can see. IMO, this would have to cover everyone. Regardless of socio-economic status or it's discriminatory. Everyone should have to go through the steps to qualify. So before say a Donald Trump or a senator/congressman, hedge fund trader or doctor could procreate, they too would have to qualify and get a license.

    2. The people who get pregnant without a license who have kids? What's the penalty? No benefits. So what happens to kids who were not licensed? They starve, go homeless and now we have a greater problem than before.

    3. Sterilization has been brought up. In exchange for benefits. There have also been posts advocating for eugenics.

    4. A DNA database was suggested.

    Kind of amazing, Brave New World stuff, as has been mentioned too.

    EDIT for clarity.
    I'm actually reading Brave New World right now. Seeing this thread while in the midst of reading that book is extremely disturbing. I am so incredibly sickened by this thread, but the ironic thing about those arguing in favor of licensing/sterilization is that they would likely be prohibited from reproducing given the complete lack of empathy and destructive tendencies that they've displayed.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Yikes! Nine kids? Why? Lol! I kind of see that as a worthless "sentence" (if that's what you would call it) though. Who's to say he would ever abide by that decision? Who is going to enforce it and what if he doesn't?

    We all know that people don't always do what they are told. I imagine in the case of a guy like this, the chances of him actually taking this judge's ruling seriously when it comes to him getting a "little nookie" are probably slim to none.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I'm actually reading Brave New World right now. Seeing this thread while in the midst of reading that book is extremely disturbing. I am so incredibly sickened by this thread, but the ironic thing about those arguing in favor of licensing/sterilization is that they would likely be prohibited from reproducing given the complete lack of empathy and destructive tendencies that they've displayed.
    Quit being so sensitive. Some of us are only debating the issue.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yikes! Nine kids? Why? Lol! I kind of see that as a worthless "sentence" (if that's what you would call it) though. Who's to say he would ever abide by that decision? Who is going to enforce it and what if he doesn't?

    We all know that people don't always do what they are told. I imagine in the case of a guy like this, the chances of him actually taking this judge's ruling seriously when it comes to him getting a "little nookie" are probably slim to none.
    He'll likely go to jail if he doesn't listen.
    I think this smacks of the gender discrimination that goes on with reproduction rights.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    He'll likely go to jail if he doesn't listen.
    I think this smacks of the gender discrimination that goes on with reproduction rights.
    Maybe he should just be sterilized?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Maybe he should just be sterilized?
    I won't go that far, I just think that both parties should be financially responsible for children past the 1st, on state aid.
    It's only fair.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I won't go that far, I just think that both parties should be financially responsible for children past the 1st, on state aid.
    It's only fair.
    I hear that, but I worry about the innocent children too. They are the ones who would suffer the most.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I hear that, but I worry about the innocent children too. They are the ones who would suffer the most.
    Not at all.
    The state provides aid, until all the children reach the age of majority.
    Then the parents have to pay back any moneys collected for children, after the 1st.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Quit being so sensitive. Some of us are only debating the issue.
    What are you talking about? I'm debating the issue as well and one of arguments is that some of the positions being advocated mirror those in Brave New World and that they are lacking in empathy and are destructive to society and humanity, in general.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not that I agree with sterilization, but my cousin had schizophrenia and if I remember right, multiple personality disorder.
    She had three children, none of which she kept, where should we draw the line between reproductive rights and what's best for potential children?

    We're all in favor of full reproductive rights, but not the responsibilities that go with it.
    That's incredibly selfish and inhumane.
    What are you suggesting then if not sterilization? Your comment is ambiguous to the point where your argument is indiscernible.

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