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Thread: A license to have children [W:81]

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, how do you feel about those who are receiving social services, who keep having children that other people end up having to support? What would be bad about perhaps mandatory birth control or sterilization for those people? And only a temporary basis until they are no longer receiving those services and are able to care for themselves and a family?
    I think that promoting free birth control (long acting like IUD or a matchstick size implant) for
    welfare moms would help.
    I don't agree with it being mandatory But I do think it should be encouaged.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Perhaps I am. I haven't done much research on the subject of sterilization thankfully.

    Simply put, it's not your decision to make. Entities and individuals that receive tax dollars aren't subject to the will and dictate of John Q. Taxpayer by default you know.
    That's not a reason. IF I am supporting those children, then, yes, I AM INVOLVED, and I should have a say in the matter of whether I have to support more of this person's children or not. You are just approaching this from a "moral" perspective instead of a logical one.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    From a logical point. Most of the mass murderers are from a well-to-do white demographic. So wealthy whites should not reproduce? Sounds sensible, eh?
    Strange how some who wail, moan and label 3 percent tax increases as Class Warfare are on board with a proposition that would forceably sterilize those with incomes they find troublesome isn't it?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I think that promoting free birth control (long acting like IUD or a matchstick size implant) for
    welfare moms mught be wokable.
    I don't agree with it being mandatory But I do think it should be encouaged.
    Well, I'm basically playing devil's advocate. I don't necessarily agree with mandatory sterilization. I would like to hear some GOOD reasons why we shouldn't do it though.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Birth control is already encouraged. I know it works to some degree, but not well enough I'm afraid.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    What about those who moan and complaint about their "right" to an abortion IF they get pregnant? Why not sterilization?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's not a reason.

    IF I am supporting those children, then, yes, I AM INVOLVED, and I should have a say in the matter of whether I have to support more of this person's children or not.

    You are just approaching this from a "moral" perspective instead of a logical one.
    Sure it is.

    No more than your right to dictate in which foreign conflicts the military sees fit to intervene, the dietary and excercise habits of medicare recipients, or the saving and spending patterns of social security beneficiaries.

    Both actually.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Sure it is.

    No more than your right to dictate in which foreign conflicts the military sees fit to intervene, the dietary and excercise habits of medicare recipients, or the saving and spending patterns of social security beneficiaries.

    Both actually.
    I don't see this situation as being the same thing at all. This isn't dictating how to spend money or military conflicts or anything like that. This is about people who are unable or unwilling to support their own families who keep adding to their family and relying on others to support them for all of their needs. Logistically, this would be a benefit not only to the taxpayer but also to the welfare recipient and to the "potential" child that would be born into a cycle of poverty.

    Your opposition is based upon moral grounds and nothing more.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What about those who moan and complaint about their "right" to an abortion IF they get pregnant? Why not sterilization?
    You answered your own question. Those folks in question want a choice in the matter based on the given circumstance, not a surgery that would eliminate all possibility.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    You answered your own question. Those folks in question want a choice in the matter based on the given circumstance, not a surgery that would eliminate all possibility.
    So basically, you are saying that you are perfectly fine with terminating pregnancies at the taxpayers' expense instead of preventing them to begin with? Hmmm. Interesting. Still isn't very logical though.

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