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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    why not have a license to exist, that kind of Virgo all the other ones wouldn't it?

    the license to exist would be a privilege that could be revoked at any moment once deemed no longer eligible.
    To digress a little, we are already taxed because of our existence, in this country at least, by virtue of our unconditional requirement to purchase health insurance.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I won't seek to defend whatever societies you're referring to, but can you explain why reproductive control would invariably lead to more child abuse, domestic violence and poverty? I'm not sure I understand the connection you're suggesting.
    Because people resist having their bodies controlled, and while human reproductive decisions aren't always perfect, they are always better than government-made reproductive decisions, in the big picture.

    Reproduction control always worsens society in every single instance it has ever been tried. People will just not allow themselves to be controlled like that, and what is in the interest of the government is often not in the interest of the people.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    To digress a little, we are already taxed because of our existence, in this country at least, by virtue of our unconditional requirement to purchase health insurance.
    yet it's not a license, it's only a tax, which most licenses are simply taxes. but this would be more like a license to drive, it could be revoked.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    First there is a couple of people who decide (or do not) to have their chromosomes united. Broader than this is governmental control over who should have their chromosomes united and who should not, thereby filtering a certain breed of people. Broader than this image is vacuum, space, and undetermined chaos, that can be best dealt with variety of people living on earth.

    This variety cannot be assured from governmental control filter. If we only are to have intellectual analysts and idealists people we cannot operate and survive for there are things that such people may hesitate to do, and thus we may fall behind in responding to that chaos (i.e., unpredictable things that may happen and the majority would hesitate to respond due to not having the necessary material).

    Thus I think the snake starts eating it's tail and we get back to score 1. People decide randomly whether to have their chromosomes united or not. This produces variety and greater odds of having the right person on the right situation to respond to chaos in the future.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    So to recap. You, presumably, with impairments or family with impairments, would support violations of basic human rights, and tell me I am taking it too personally when our people are going to be targeted by the professional class like they were for generations?
    Not that I agree with sterilization, but my cousin had schizophrenia and if I remember right, multiple personality disorder.
    She had three children, none of which she kept, where should we draw the line between reproductive rights and what's best for potential children?

    We're all in favor of full reproductive rights, but not the responsibilities that go with it.
    That's incredibly selfish and inhumane.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    As much as I think the plot of the movie Idiocracy (see it you haven't) is becoming reality, the idea of licensing procreation is not possible without completely surrendering any personal soveriegnty we may have.

    I know who should be able to have kids and who shouldn't, so if you want to make me the decider, I'll be happy to do it, but no one else.

    I'll make sure only the "right people" have children.

    How's that sound?

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    I'll make sure only the "right people" have children.

    How's that sound?
    Agreed. No left people should procreate.

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    No. As much as I would not mind it, lol. It goes against everything this country is supposed to stand for. Maybe in Ancient Rome or WWII Nazi Germany. No way should this kind of fascist thinking be allowed here.
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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Agreed. No left people should procreate.
    When I choose, the right will be the left people, but of course, you won't pick me to choose, and i won't pick you to choose, and I don't trust anyone else to choose, so there will be no damn choosin', okay!

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    Re: A license to have children [W:81]

    I would love to have that realistically possible - because I believe the main source of suffering in this world is from lousy parents causing emotional trauma to their children (many times, unseen).

    But it is not realistic without taking away so much freedom that is would be ridiculous.


    My solution is to stop rewarding people who have more children then they can afford - as poverty is probably the single biggest cause of the above mentioned abuse.

    End welfare.

    If people need food/shelter - give it to them. But only the minimum thyough government flop houses and soup kitchens. NEVER any money.

    And provide full medical/dental care to all children that need it...but NOTHING except emergency medical/dental to these pathetic parents.


    I would insist that these useless parents should have to have their pictures put on the web everytime they bring their children to a government shelter. But many of these losers probably would just let their kids starve rather then be face embarrassment.


    Finally, society has to stop encouraging people to have children.

    It should be considered a priviledge to have a child - not a right.

    Something that only a few are qualified to undertake.

    This nonsense that people just assume that the vast majority of people are good parents is completely wrong.

    By the law of averages, 1/3 will be good at it, 1/3 will be adequate and 1/3 will suck at it.

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