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Thread: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It was part of Memorandum of Understanding, the contract drawn up before the debates between both candidates.
    Perot did not have 15% approval before the debates?
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No not really.
    You're supporting a lousy excuse to continue the current system.
    There are more than 2 "third" parties.
    So, we hear you complaining...now how about offer up a solution or alternative? I've done such...what about you? How do you believe debate access should be determined?

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Perot did not have 15% approval before the debates?
    I don't know.
    I do know that Bill Clinton wanted him in the debates.

    I read a book about it several years ago.
    It's not a snipe at Bill Clinton, if that's how you're taking it.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So, we hear you complaining...now how about offer up a solution or alternative? I've done such...what about you? How do you believe debate access should be determined?
    Top 5 parties by popular vote.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's because the system is specifically set up against their success. The Republic is on the line, we must have open political competition.

    Michael Badnarik and David Cobb (Libertarian and Green Presidential Candidate) obtained a legal Order to Show Cause that would have allowed he and David into the Presidential elections. In the attempt to serve the papers at the Presidential Election, the two of them were arrested and taken to jail, held until the debate was over. And how many major news organizations carried the news that two Presidential Candidates on the ballot in all 50 States were arrested outside the Presidential Debates while trying to serve legal papers that would have allowed their access into the debates? None.

    That's the system you endorse. One in which the main party uses force of State to purposefully keep third parties out of the spotlight. One in which we arrest Presidential candidates instead of letting them have equal access to the system. Land of the Free, yes? Where is that free speech you talk of? Where is that "free market" you run your mouth about? It's not there. The system is controlled, it is regulated, and it is specifically set to destroy political competition. That is the reality, that is the measured state of our political system. But keep endorsing the Catch-22 cause that will drive us to a better place
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So, we hear you complaining...now how about offer up a solution or alternative? I've done such...what about you? How do you believe debate access should be determined?
    Red and I have gone round about this before.
    He believes things are fine as is, I do not.

    Not much room there for alternatives.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What is funny is Libertarians are usually opposed to free handouts, until it's them that want it.
    I'm not looking for free handouts. I'm looking for free and open competition. But don't let that detour you from making snide comments that address nothing and deflect from points made.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Top 5 parties by popular vote.
    So basically your solution is to include your favored party, and screw the rest. Hypocrisy in action!
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What is funny is Libertarians are usually opposed to free handouts, until it's them that want it.
    I'm not opposed to "free" handouts, not universally.
    Sorry, but you can't peg us all into square holes.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So basically your solution is to include your favored party, and screw the rest. Hypocrisy in action!
    Nope, we can make it more if need be. But at least 5 parties should be present. Any other snide comment you have that doesn't actually address anything and instead seeks to deflect away from any point made in effort to marginalize arguments so that you don't have to deal with them?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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