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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    I think if a 3rd party can get enough support then they should be allowed in national debates.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    IIRC, Bill Clinton wanted him included.
    Clinton had every incentive to do so.

    I'm in favor of lowering the % required to get an audience for third parties. However, I will support rhetorical bashing of third parties to beat hell on the airwaves, and attempts by the major party to promote the most damaging third party for their opponent. Third parties in the United States are best used as pawns.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So im taking a class called "Political Parties and Elections", and i was sitting in class today and i thought why should pretty popular 3rd parties not be allowed on the national debate?

    What are your thought; do you think third parties should be allowed on the national debates?
    I didn't know there were armed guards keeping them out.

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    If they are sufficiently popular. I don't think any of the candidates would've merited inclusion last year, although Gary Johnson was close. I wouldn't mind having some relatively high polling candidates in the debates, but allowing just every third party that fields a candidate in a debate would be too much. I'd probably lower the current threshold of polling, which I believe is 5%, to something like 2%.
    Well hold on, OP said "3rd party"...there can be only one 3rd party, because an additional party would be a 4th, and another party would be a 5th, and so forth. Asking if there should be a 3rd party necessarily means allowing only one more party to attend.

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I thought Ralph Nader and Ross Perot were in the national debates? Weren't they third party candidates?
    And none since. It is not a democracy we live in. It is like the old Soviet elections where you only had the one choice. We are just given two equally bad choices and told it is democracy.

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    Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Slateriesling View Post
    And none since. It is not a democracy we live in. It is like the old Soviet elections where you only had the one choice. We are just given two equally bad choices and told it is democracy.
    Did you watch any of the "third party candidate debates" last year?

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Of course, you are wise to try to avoid acknowledging that you are part of the problem, but it is obvious to any objective observer that I have bested you in this debate and you have no counter argument, so spare me the obnoxious sniping. Put up a counter argument or shut up.
    No, you've cried and complained with the same old nonsense. Here's a thought, maybe nobody cares about 3rd party candidates except Libertarians and other disgruntled political minorities?
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Did you watch any of the "third party candidate debates" last year?
    Tried to catch what I could. To busy working hard. I would have liked the debates that included the Dem and Rep candidates to include somebody else.

    Why did the Dems and the Reps agree on only one thing, don't let a third party into the debates?

    Read my blog I posted to see what I think was really at work here.

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Did you watch any of the "third party candidate debates" last year?
    I didn't know there were any.

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    [QUOTE=Guy Incognito;1061499012]That would be true if it wasn't an integral part of the election process. The two-party system has a tyrannical monopoly of government. Typical of the shills for the two-party system, you are conveniently ignoring this fact. The two major parties are using their control over the political process to keep out the competition. Making this about freedom of association is either disingenuous or naive, and I know you well enough to know you aren't naive.
    QUOTE]

    Indeed, the two parties go through all avenues to make political participation difficult to impossible. They'll pass ballot access laws that can range from minimal to severe - usually, 5,000 signatures will get a candidate on a state's ballot, but in a state like Oklahoma, the target ranges from 50,000 to 60,000 after every election. They'll use their power over the Election Boards to audit the signature pages for authenticity, and then sue to get third parties removed from the ballot. In some cases, if the Election Board will invalidate entire sheets of signatures if just one signator is found to not be a registered voter. Third parties can't just devote all of their resources to running ads and PR because they must first secure ballot access and then fend off frivolous lawsuits to maintain it.

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