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Thread: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you think they got votes? They are included.
    .. they are not included in the debates... which is what we are talking about.

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    I thought this was interesting:

    Little Support for Third-Party Candidates in 2012 Election


    PRINCETON, NJ -- "U.S. registered voters show limited support for third-party candidates this year, with the vast majority preferring Barack Obama or Mitt Romney. A June 7-10 Gallup poll asked a special presidential preference question, listing three third-party candidates in addition to Obama and Romney. Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson is the choice of 3% of registered voters and Green Party candidate Jill Stein the choice of 1%. Another 2% volunteer Ron Paul's name and 1% mention someone other than the listed candidates."
    Little Support for Third-Party Candidates in 2012 Election


    I think the lack of a message/candidate that resonates with more registered voters is perhaps the biggest obstacle for third parties.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think a message/candidate that resonates with more registered voters is perhaps the biggest obstacle for third parties.
    It may very well be. We'll never know for sure less we allow open participation.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It may very well be. We'll never know for sure less we allow open participation.
    How are 3rd parties blocked from selecting candidates/party platforms that resonate with more than just a handful of voters?
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How are 3rd parties blocked from selecting candidates/party platforms that resonate with more than just a handful of voters?
    Through rules restricting their campaign finance, to refusal by media to cover all the candidates, to the purposeful construct of the debates to forbid third party competition.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that sounds very circular to me..

    barring candidates prevents them from impacting an election.. and not being able to impact an election is why we bar them.
    No it does not. Or are you saying that only the debates get candidates support?
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No it does not. Or are you saying that only the debates get candidates support?
    The debates are one of the major ways through which candidates gain support. yes.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    .. they are not included in the debates... which is what we are talking about.
    Because they do not meet the criterion of support to take part in the debates. The debates are not limited to two people. Those who take part managed to get support before the debates.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The debates are one of the major ways through which candidates gain support. yes.
    Except that the debates happen after they got enough support for inclusion.
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    Re: Should 3rd Parties Be Allowed on the National Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because they do not meet the criterion of support to take part in the debates. The debates are not limited to two people. Those who take part managed to get support before the debates.
    The debates are functionally limited to two people. This is just measured fact.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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