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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Do you get it yet?
    You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries. So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people? We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month." Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.

    I can do without your condescension.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries. So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people? We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month." Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.

    I can do without your condescension.
    I get sick of black people ramming ''racism'' down my throat...

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries.
    Interesting. You think it's okay to have magazines, et al. for black people by people, but it's not okay to say that they are for black people by black people. How does not calling something what it is stop something from being what it is?

    And since you think that giving things names like "Black Entertainment Television" is a problem, can you also explain how you and other white people have been harmed by the names like BET, Black History month, et al.?

    So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people?
    It matters because it's the basis for the things you are complaining about. Don't you want to understand the things you're criticizing? Or would you prefer to criticize things from a place of ignorance?

    We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month."
    Again, it's okay for X to exist as long as we don't call it X. That's a pretty silly argument.

    Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.
    Black History month, BET, et al. aren't about putting the black "race" on a "pedestal". They are about, as I already told you, filling the absence of black people and perspectives that exists in our society.

    I can do without your condescension.
    I require it to cope with the ignorance that constitutes the entirety of your posts.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Interesting. You think it's okay to have magazines, et al. for black people by people, but it's not okay to say that they are for black people by black people. How does not calling something what it is stop something from being what it is?
    Yes I think it's ok, and no it's not ok to say that they are for black people, by black people explicitly. Not calling something what it is does not keep it from being so, but it is blatanly racist to create anything titled exclusively for your race. I would make the same argument if we were talking about 'White Entertainment Television.' Keep the color's out of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    And since you think that giving things names like "Black Entertainment Television" is a problem, can you also explain how you and other white people have been harmed by the names like BET, Black History month, et al.?

    'White' or caucasian people have a rich culture and history in this country as well as black, hispanic, asian, etc. Imagine the uproar if there were ANYTHING as explicitly exclusive to white people as there is to other cultures. It is a denial of equality and freedom to be unable to make exclusively white facets. It creates a sense of guilt for being white.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It matters because it's the basis for the things you are complaining about. Don't you want to understand the things you're criticizing? Or would you prefer to criticize things from a place of ignorance?.

    It's not the people who dominate the television channel, magazine, etc; It's the title of them that matters. It goes from being simply a heavily white instituion or black institution, to an exclusively white or black institution.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Again, it's okay for X to exist as long as we don't call it X. That's a pretty silly argument..


    Not in the least. It's called being politically correct and it is a very valid argument made by other races towards whites all the time. Channels, magazines, schools, etc dominated by white people exist, but we do not call them white magazines, white schools, white etc, because it would be politically incorrect and discriminatory.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Black History month, BET, et al. aren't about putting the black "race" on a "pedestal". They are about, as I already told you, filling the absence of black people and perspectives that exists in our society..
    The only other race which has it's own nationally recognized month to celebrate it's culture and heritage is the Hispanic race, Hispanic Heritage Month. Where is Native American month? If any race deserves some attention, it's them. Obviously there is a hierarchy of allowed racial pride in this country, and black people are definitely at the top - on a pedestal.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I require it to cope with the ignorance that constitutes the entirety of your posts.
    You require it because you cannot keep your emotions out of a debate and act as an adult.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie View Post
    I get sick of black people ramming ''racism'' down my throat...
    It's becoming uncontrollable.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    It's becoming uncontrollable.
    The worst thing is..it is of our own making..or government politically correct councils...who are usually white..

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    You can have all of those things and keep the overtly racial titles out of them. A channel on which the entertainment is by black people, for black people does not have to be called Black Entertainment Television. It could be called anything else and it would be less discriminatory, regardless of who is on the channel and who the channel is for. The same goes for all of the aforementioned black only pleasantries. So what if other magazines feature primarliy white people? We still don't call it Ivory magazine. The same can be said for Ebony magazine. Feature primarily black people in it, but the explicit 'for us by us' titles are what the issue is. Call it "Cultural History Month." Preaching equality and then putting your own race on a pedestal where you are invulnerable to the common political incorrectness of making things racially exclusive is hypocritical.
    I think you would understand this better with more knowledge of recent history. African-Americans were forced into having a separate culture by law and custom until the mid-1960s. Paradoxically, they were also subject to forced assimilation in may ways. They were always told by the mainstream that their culture was inferior, while at the same time the dominant culture appropriated aspects of their cultural expression. Knowing this, it is understandable that African Americans are defensive and protective about their culture. However, in my personal experience, and based on my extensive knowledge of African American music, when others consume or participate in their culture with respect they are welcomed. For example, I have been the one of just a handful of white gpeople at early rap shows and no one gave me a hard time, and some expressed appreciation for my interest. Racial exclusiveness among African Americans is largely a myth in my experience. People who have other experiences may just be unlucky, but more likely they had unreasonable expectations or did not act repectfully (perhaps unintentionally or subconsciously).

    I know of small, but active Italian/Italian American and Polish/Polish American and other communities and cultures here in the USA that also have magaines, TV shows etc. No one claims that they are racist, put themselves on a pedestal or treat others with condescension.

    If you want to particpate in African American/Black culture no one is stopping you. BET does not say "for blacks only"



    *which is alo a significant part of the general North American culture
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I think you would understand this better with more knowledge of recent history. African-Americans were forced into having a separate culture by law and custom until the mid-1960s. Paradoxically, they were also subject to forced assimilation in may ways. They were always told by the mainstream that their culture was inferior, while at the same time the dominant culture appropriated aspects of their cultural expression. Knowing this, it is understandable that African Americans are defensive and protective about their culture. However, in my personal experience, and based on my extensive knowledge of African American music, when others consume or participate in their culture with respect they are welcomed. For example, I have been the one of just a handful of white gpeople at early rap shows and no one gave me a hard time, and some expressed appreciation for my interest. Racial exclusiveness among African Americans is largely a myth in my experience. People who have other experiences may just be unlucky, bit more likely they had unreasonable expectations or did not act repectfully.

    I know of small, but active Italian/Italian American and Polish/Polish American and other communities and cultures here in the USA that also have magaines, TV shows etc. No one claims that they are racist, put themselves on a pedestal or treat others with condescension.

    If you want to particpate in African American/Black culture no one is stopping you. BET does not say "for blacks only"



    *which is alo a significant part of the general North American culture
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    ...The only other race which has it's own nationally recognized month to celebrate it's culture and heritage is the Hispanic race, Hispanic Heritage Month. Where is Native American month? If any race deserves some attention, it's them. Obviously there is a hierarchy of allowed racial pride in this country, and black people are definitely at the top - on a pedestal....

    Here's info on Native American month, which is in November: Native American Heritage Month 2012
    Italian American month is October October is Italian Heritage Month
    so is Polish American month Polish American Heritage Month
    Asian Pacific Heritage month Presidential Proclamation -- Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, 2012 | The White House

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