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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    Well, for example, my family are WASPS and compared to Jewish, Irish, African slaves my status being raised upper middle class had an advantage over these groups or the foundation I should say gave me an advantage. Can you measure that and say all WASPS had an unfair advantage or "privelege", probably not, but I never grew up to feel like I had an inferiority complex being white but feel that a large portion of minorities probably did due to racism etc. If anyone has a right to feel that white privilege exists, it would be minority groups but don't think there is anything that can be done to counter that perception, except for more time.
    Money privilege is not white privilege. Sorry.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    1.) yes it is, thats a fact i tend to just go by what words FACTUALLY mean not opinion and guess and philophy. It is that easy. YOU are looking for something not be discussed and making it harder cause thats what YOU want. I am supported by reality and the meaning of words.
    You are being overly simplistic to support your bias.

    2.) thers no perhaps at about it, its a fact it doesnt mean the entire white race is racist LOL

    also not some all but ONE as far as i know and its not about getting with the program (which is very telling to your biased dishonesty view) its about the fact that if it was used to BASH a whole race and make them look bad way would all the white people acknowledge the fact it exists LMAO

    you are making up that it means all whites are racist and that all rights participate in and or receive it, this is simply not true
    The term isnt implying that some people with white skin behave a certain way. The term "white" implies all people that have white skin and nothing less. "White privilege" is a generalization its a logical fallacy. But then you are tryimng to speak for me so I guess you will believe that you are right no matter what here.

    3.) no i never did, YOU misunderstood what i called a fact and what i called subjective

    its a fact it exists
    its subjective to what extent, how much, where, who and why its happens

    try to keep up and not let things blend together sine you have obviously already made up your mind no matter what facts you are presented with
    LMAO extent, how much, where, who and why? Its a fact that its subjective then? lol come on who are you trying to BS here? You assert its a fact then define the fact as subjective.

    4.)nope, there no BIGGER IMAGINARY thing going on its just racism conducted by people belonging to the majority

    fact remains it exists, you not liking the term is meaningless, the term hurting your feelings is also meaningless.
    I never denied that racism exists, but go ahead keep lying in my face buddy I know what I have said and what I think despite you trying to say otherwise.

    5.)and yes, i have said many times with many other posters lots of other bigotry, misogyny, privileged, special treatment, favoritism, discrimination exists also, it doesnt change the fact that white privileged exist.
    The proper term is "In-group favoritism" in sociological terms..

    so im not caught up on anything im staying on topic and talking about things that matter to this topic. Nobody is singling out anybody this is another lie.

    we are talking about white privileged because its the OPs questions and the title of the thread LMAO

    if you would like to talk about a different topic make a thread about it

    try to keep up because you have factually been proven wrong and are just making stuff up based on false assumptions that plainly and simply is not happening. Honesty will serve you better the kneejerk illogical emotion.

    Oh by the way, fact remains it exists
    not sure why this fact bothers you
    You like to act like you are in the know and are staying on topic. The problem is that you are ignorant of the actual topic. The actual topic despite the huge lack of knowledge flying around this thread is actually Ethnocentrism. Indeed I am on topic since I am disputing the relevance of the term "White privilege". But my friend are are trying to force me to believe that the term is relevant and are trying hard to stop me from criticizing the term. You have even went as far as trying to assign me your version of my argument. Im actually taking a neutral stance by admitting that factual observations exist but I do not assert an actual side that I would be taking. Despite your attempts though I still have not taken a side on the issue other than to say that people with light colored skin are not the sole perpetrators.

    Sometimes subjects are much deeper than the superficialness of a OP's question. But go ahead keep believing that its simple, if you want to stay on that level.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Passive aggressive? There you go again - telling others what they think instead of just asking them.

    On the contrary.

    My wishing you a nice day is 100% sincere.

    And I hold no animosity towards you.

    Pity, maybe (30+ posts a day for over 3 1/2 years and seemingly rather trollish in your behaviour...you must have a rather empty life).

    But no animosity.

    And it does me no good for you to have a bad day.


    Anyway, back to the subject.


    Have a nice day.
    Passive aggressive describes a behavior, not your thoughts. I'm sure you believe that you really are wishing me to have a nice day, but your actions clearly imply otherwise. Fortunately for me, though, I do find it all rather enjoyable.

    Also, 13-8 is 5, not 4. Just some math help there in case you haven't caught up yet.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    With that in mind, one of thought processes I've started to grow into over the past year is the fact that I just have to accept that the world is going to exist with people in it who just frankly don't know what they're talking about and are, in fact, proud of that (and that the world can still progress in spite of the hindrance they are to the effort).
    I've reached the same acceptance, but I still struggle with it from time to time.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    1.)You are being overly simplistic to support your bias.

    2.)The term isnt implying that some people with white skin behave a certain way. The term "white" implies all people that have white skin and nothing less. "White privilege" is a generalization its a logical fallacy. But then you are tryimng to speak for me so I guess you will believe that you are right no matter what here.

    3.)LMAO extent, how much, where, who and why? Its a fact that its subjective then? lol come on who are you trying to BS here? You assert its a fact then define the fact as subjective.

    I never denied that racism exists, but go ahead keep lying in my face buddy I know what I have said and what I think despite you trying to say otherwise.

    The proper term is "In-group favoritism" in sociological terms..

    You like to act like you are in the know and are staying on topic. The problem is that you are ignorant of the actual topic. The actual topic despite the huge lack of knowledge flying around this thread is actually Ethnocentrism. Indeed I am on topic since I am disputing the relevance of the term "White privilege". But my friend are are trying to force me to believe that the term is relevant and are trying hard to stop me from criticizing the term. You have even went as far as trying to assign me your version of my argument. Im actually taking a neutral stance by admitting that factual observations exist but I do not assert an actual side that I would be taking. Despite your attempts though I still have not taken a side on the issue other than to say that people with light colored skin are not the sole perpetrators.

    Sometimes subjects are much deeper than the superficialness of a OP's question. But go ahead keep believing that its simple, if you want to stay on that level.
    1.) false unless you consider the dictionary and factual meanings of words biased LMAO
    2.) false this is what you want it to mean in an attempt to dismiss the facts but it doent and never did
    3.) why are you lying, AGAIN no BS, again words, and sentences have meanings.

    its existence is a fact
    how much of it is present, where and when and why is subjective

    this is basic common sense and doesnt mean anything close to the lie you just stated

    4.) feel free to ADD that term if you like but i all the terms i used are already proper.

    5.) another lie, you say this yet you are the one going off topic and i never did

    the reality is, it is that simply since the discussion is does it exist.

    It does, thats a proven fact.

    If there are other topics youd like to discuss feel free, they wont impact this already established and proven fact
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Not everyone that benefited from white privilege is bigoted. Because in truth almost all white people have benefited. Is it fair? Of course not but most of life is not based on that kind of situational fairness. The laws give everyone rights of equality but not equal circumstances. I wish I were born with more money or the ability to acquire it or had better looks and health. You play the hand your dealt to the best of your ability.

    You're born in this country (USA) with more rights, privileges and wealth than most of the developed world, are you going to devoid yourself of these benefits in order to be on a more equal footing with the rest of the people? Or are you going to accept that your status as an American comes with these inherited assets? The hierarchy of our civilization is not always based on fair actions, unfortunately but it is the path of evolution.

    I experienced just a little profiling myself as a perspective job applicant and lost 2 positions for not being the correct color or sex. I was furious and thought it completely unfair, so I can't imagine living an entire life with those negative implications.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Money privilege is not white privilege. Sorry.
    He didn't say that it was. Sorry.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So you're not denying the existence of black privilege, woman privilege, Latino privilege...

    If everyone's privileged, then nobody is privileged - by definition.
    Some people are more privileged than others, by a lot.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Passive aggressive describes a behavior, not your thoughts. I'm sure you believe that you really are wishing me to have a nice day, but your actions clearly imply otherwise. Fortunately for me, though, I do find it all rather enjoyable.

    Also, 13-8 is 5, not 4. Just some math help there in case you haven't caught up yet.
    Obviously, it is a behaviour. But you really did not understand my response?

    Noted.


    And the length makes it even worse. That means you have been averaging (by my quick calculation) over 23 posts per day not for 3 1/2 years...but for 4 1/2 years.

    Sad.

    But it does explain a lot.


    Have a nice day.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Considering that a large portion of the posts on this thread are examples of white racism, doubting the existence of white privilege seems strange to me.

    But, as I said before, it can be like describing water to fish. When you are white, you don't notice that the police don't pull you over very often, you assume that is normal. You don't notice that people in businesses treat you better, you assume that is normal. You don't notice that the building owner returns your call when you ask about the availability of an apartment for rent, you assume that is normal. Targeted minorities don't always know whether they are being discriminated against in specific incidents either, but after awhile a pattern emerges.

    However, there are many statistics establishing the existence of white privilege. It is most obvious when it comes to the criminal justice system where your race is likely to determine whether you get stopped, how you will be treated, whether you will be searched, whether you get arrested, the charges against you, the likelihood of a conviction and the length of your sentence. But again, when you are white, you may think it is normal when a cop lets you off with a warning when you are caught.

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