View Poll Results: Does "white privilege exist"?

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    White "privilege" is simply a manifestation of White productivity. Blacks with
    talent have no problems finding employment.
    Not sure if I agree its as cut and dry as implied. I once worked for an organization that did employ minorities but once privy to the behind the scenes inner-workings, much of the corporate culture was based on favoritism. Not a huge employer and basically a mom and pops operation. White guy did job X and was given a bonus for taking on the extra responsibility. He is later reassigned and black guy is given that project at half of what the white guy was paid. Its hard to say if race was absolutely the reason for the difference in compensation or just a strange corporate culture where the boss just liked another person more than the other. The favoritism dynamic was a significant component to how the place was run breeding a huge brown nosing dynamic throughout the organization, which strangely did affect promotions but not the compensation levels of minority employees. Talented blacks had no problem getting hired or promoted but blacks generally were not compensated equally. Coincidence or not, again its hard to say. However, after I left the wife took over day to day operations, in short time women out numbered men leadership positions 2 to 1 and a black woman was appointed to the top position.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Race is not a social construct. It is a natural phenomenom that influences social action and thinking.
    Are you saying that people of different races are inherently different beyond superficial differences? If so, in what ways?

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    As for the OP question, no it does not exist. There are more down and out, struggling to 'get by' white people than there are of other 'races' in this country... more whites on 'public assistance' than other races in this nation.

    The whole concept is just more left wing race bating BS.
    In total numbers, yes. As a per capita index or percentage of their group's population, no.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    1. I wish I had gone to your school.

    2. White privilege doesn't mean that success is determined by race.

    3. White privilege doesn't mean that white people "owe" anyone anything.

    4. White privilege doesn't mean that white people don't have to study or work while other people buy iPads.

    5. White privilege doesn't mean that all white people have "had it easy."

    6. I have no problem teaching students about IQ discrepancies, their origins and their effects. Good suggestion.

    7. Race is a social construct. Teaching about white privilege doesn't "validate" it; teaching about white privilege acknowledges the effects that that social construct has on society and individuals within it.

    #6 what are those origins, the cite I showed says it's mostly genetic in nature.

    at least I can't say you're a hypocrite on the issue.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    white people being poor doesnt change the fact white privilege exists,
    The downfall of our society is progressing forward due to idiocy like this...
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    In total numbers, yes. As a per capita index or percentage of their group's population, no.
    Irrelevant.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Try an uniformed guess then. Is it "white" privledge as you call it or more the founding or dominate cultures "institutional advantage". The US was essintially founded by white european christens with paternalistic bent, yes? Does it not stand to reason that a countries foundational culture and morais, is reflected in its institutions and dominate culture? That most every country has a dominate culture, that determines the norms of that country? Would that just be simply the standard dynamic whatever country and its dominate culture and founding precepts. The reason I ask these questions is because I am fairly well traveled, having been to Africa, the Middle East and Europe and most every state of the union barring Alaska and Hawaii. I have experianced the diffent dynamics of different countries and cultures. "Institutional advantage" is what I call it. Its pervasive in every country and culture. Its a natural, abet unfair tendency of man. Fact is whether you like it or not that advantage to some degree is pretty much ALWAYS going to exist in one form or another though not nessearilly in the current forms or by the curent cultures. ALMOST ALL cultures do this. So more so than others. The United States version is actually fairlly mild. We in our country are EXCEPTIONALY mild point of fact. The point I am attempting to make is the "white privaledge" you experiance is not excactly that per say, but more of the dominate culture and its influence on the norms of society and its institutions. So really "white priveledge" as you put it, is nothing more than a phenominom of a currently dominate culture. Take California for instance, the primary culure has been the white protestent paternal version(s). But as of late it has been slowly changing to one more of a hispanic cultural bent. This has to do with the population change we are exepriancing. Right now "Hispanics" and "whites" are at parity with the trend saying toward the end of this year or next the hispanic population exceeding the white population. As that occures the culture will start to focus more to a hispanic mindset and less a white mindset. This is resulting in more hispanic "institutional advantage".
    Sure, as I've said before, every society has groups that are privileged. In some societies that privilege is determined by race, in others it is determined by religion and so on. More often than not, there are many different types of privilege in every society. In the United States, one type of privilege is white privilege and, I agree, such privilege is generally based in the influence that the dominate culture has in the society. This is why I consider people's resistance to acknowledge white privilege so amusing. It's really not that controversial. Every society has privileged groups - the white population is one of the groups in the United States.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Does Black Privilege exist in professional Basketball?

    It's not privilege, it's ability. Have you ever tried to explain a simple concept to someone who is unable to understand, simply cannot grasp easy thoughts? Cannot grasp relationships between words because they cannot learn word meanings?

    For most, ability to obtain higher income or success in a free country is directly correlated to your intelligence and, to a certain extent, your education.

    America no longer has a huge number of jobs that don't require intelligence or ability to understand concepts, this is a technological age and many do not succeed because of their comparatively low level of innate intelligence. Many do not have the innate ability to learn how to spell, to write or to work simple arithmetic problems. Many cannot learn to speak correctly according to the rules of grammar.

    While that particular difference in races is forbidden to speak about, it is exactly why many will never succeed or advance. It is survival of the fittest in a free, technological society.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    #6 what are those origins, the cite I showed says it's mostly genetic in nature.

    at least I can't say you're a hypocrite on the issue.
    I'm not really interested in getting to a discussion about why you think certain races are inherently less intelligent than others. The answer to that question is far more complicated than I'm interested in dealing with, it won't end well for anyone and it's off topic. If you want to talk about white privilege, then I'll do that, but I'm not interested in where you're taking this.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Have you ever tried to explain a simple concept to someone who is unable to understand, simply cannot grasp easy thoughts?
    The story of my life - or at least my life in this thread.

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