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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    No I don't need sources that some of it exists. It is not however institutionalized or accepted. I have more experience than you do and I can honestly say it's all about money now, and almost has nothing at all to do with race. You need to do your own research and stop playing the white guilt race card. It would help for starters.
    White privilege has nothing to do with "white guilt." It's about the advantages "whiteness" provides in a society historically and currently dominated by white people. In fact, "white guilt" would probably get in the way of an honest discussion of the undeniable reality of white privilege. Can you please stick to the topic and not veer off into red herrings?

    I can show even more sources saying the exact and polar opposite form non biased sources. So yes, post them.
    This is a very incomplete list of sources, but it's good for beginners.

    White privilege as it pertains to:

    Wealth
    http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapt...0/1418_ch1.pdf
    http://www.brandeis.edu/provost/dive...n_American.pdf

    Police/Justice System
    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp02.pdf
    http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/3ae6a86f4.pdf

    Employment/Housing/Credit/Income
    http://www.chicagobooth.edu/pdf/bertrand.pdf
    http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/annu...rimination.pdf
    National Report Card on Discrimination in America: The Role of Testing
    Income gap persists among racial groups : William M. Hartnett

    Education
    http://www.edtrust.org/sites/edtrust...ingGap2005.pdf
    The Stealth Inequities of School Funding | Center for American Progress
    http://www.schoolfundingfairness.org...eport_Card.pdf
    http://bsdweb.bsdvt.org/district/Equ...eg_Matters.pdf
    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa...l_revenues.pdf

    Societal prejudice
    Racial prejudice in US worsened during Obama's first term, study shows | World news | guardian.co.uk
    Study: Racist Attitudes Are Still Ingrained - TIME

    Psychological effects of prejudice
    Perceived Racism May Impact Black Americans' Mental Health
    http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/dev443787.pdf
    http://www.cas.usf.edu/~salomon/Matt...sen30years.pdf
    The effects of discrimination could last a lifetime

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    You are mistaken on a few things here...

    No one said it is the same as having money or that all white people are rich. Please point out someone who said that nonsense. We know exactly what it is and people like you (liberals) think it exist because whites are the majority plain and simple.
    The fact that whites are a majority is a contributing factor to the reality of white privilege, yes. However, it's mostly about the fact that whites have historically and currently dominated power structures in American society and thus, tend to have advantages because of that. I mean, racial discrimination doesn't exist unless someone has the privilege of not being discriminated against.

    I also don't know why you're making this a "liberal vs. conservative" issue. White privilege is a societal issue. Let's try to keep partisanship out of this and stay on topic.

    So please start posting the sources so I can tear them down.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    White privilege has nothing to do with "white guilt." It's about the advantages "whiteness" provides in a society historically and currently dominated by white people. In fact, "white guilt" would probably get in the way of an honest discussion of the undeniable reality of white privilege. Can you please stick to the topic and not veer off into red herrings?


    This is a very incomplete list of sources, but it's good for beginners.

    White privilege as it pertains to:

    Wealth
    http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapt...0/1418_ch1.pdf
    http://www.brandeis.edu/provost/dive...n_American.pdf

    Police/Justice System
    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp02.pdf
    http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/3ae6a86f4.pdf

    Employment/Housing/Credit/Income
    http://www.chicagobooth.edu/pdf/bertrand.pdf
    http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/annu...rimination.pdf
    National Report Card on Discrimination in America: The Role of Testing
    Income gap persists among racial groups : William M. Hartnett

    Education
    http://www.edtrust.org/sites/edtrust...ingGap2005.pdf
    The Stealth Inequities of School Funding | Center for American Progress
    http://www.schoolfundingfairness.org...eport_Card.pdf
    http://bsdweb.bsdvt.org/district/Equ...eg_Matters.pdf
    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa...l_revenues.pdf

    Societal prejudice
    Racial prejudice in US worsened during Obama's first term, study shows | World news | guardian.co.uk
    Study: Racist Attitudes Are Still Ingrained - TIME

    Psychological effects of prejudice
    Perceived Racism May Impact Black Americans' Mental Health
    http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/dev443787.pdf
    http://www.cas.usf.edu/~salomon/Matt...sen30years.pdf
    The effects of discrimination could last a lifetime
    Does this "white privelage" only apply here in the states or does it apply elsewhere, say Angola, Ethipoia, Somolia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, India, Cuba, or perhaps Argentina? How about Russia, or Isreal, or Germany, or France?
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    White privilege has nothing to do with "white guilt." It's about the advantages "whiteness" provides in a society historically and currently dominated by white people. In fact, "white guilt" would probably get in the way of an honest discussion of the undeniable reality of white privilege. Can you please stick to the topic and not veer off into red herrings?


    This is a very incomplete list of sources, but it's good for beginners.

    White privilege as it pertains to:

    Wealth
    http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapt...0/1418_ch1.pdf<===Book and opinion piece. No sources just opinion.
    http://www.brandeis.edu/provost/dive...n_American.pdf<---This actually backs what I have been saying, lol.

    Police/Justice System
    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp02.pdf<---Minority's commit more crime. No surprises here. What does this have to do with privilege?
    http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/3ae6a86f4.pdf<---Again this supports what I have been saying. The disparity is more about being able to afford a good lawyer than anything else. Please drug crime is more prevalent in the black community. This has nothing at all to do with white privilege. I agree a disparity in sentencing exists, but this again is about money.

    Employment/Housing/Credit/Income
    http://www.chicagobooth.edu/pdf/bertrand.pdf<--- 5.11% disparity. Wow, yea considering blacks make up 13% of the population that sounds about right. In the end it turned out to be less than 4% difference. I am sorry that is far from some kind of privilege when you add in affirmative action etc.
    http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/annu...rimination.pdf
    National Report Card on Discrimination in America: The Role of Testing
    Income gap persists among racial groups : William M. Hartnett

    Education
    http://www.edtrust.org/sites/edtrust...ingGap2005.pdf
    The Stealth Inequities of School Funding | Center for American Progress
    http://www.schoolfundingfairness.org...eport_Card.pdf
    http://bsdweb.bsdvt.org/district/Equ...eg_Matters.pdf
    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa...l_revenues.pdf

    Societal prejudice
    Racial prejudice in US worsened during Obama's first term, study shows | World news | guardian.co.uk
    Study: Racist Attitudes Are Still Ingrained - TIME

    Psychological effects of prejudice
    Perceived Racism May Impact Black Americans' Mental Health
    http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/dev443787.pdf
    http://www.cas.usf.edu/~salomon/Matt...sen30years.pdf
    The effects of discrimination could last a lifetime
    The only beginner here is you my friend...

    I am not even going through the rest as they have literally nothing to do with any kind of white privilege.

    What does the "Psychological effects of prejudice" have to do with white privilege?

    Employment and education are easy, has nothing to do with white anything. A majority of blacks go to school in poorer neighborhoods. Less tax base, lower quality teachers, lower quality education, higher drop out rates. Now lets add in drugs, gangs etc and you have a whole list of why it has nothing to do with any kind of white privilege. Again, it's about money. Most of your sources say the same damn thing.

    So as soon as you come up with something better and read your own links.

    I bid you good day.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The fact that whites are a majority is a contributing factor to the reality of white privilege, yes. However, it's mostly about the fact that whites have historically and currently dominated power structures in American society and thus, tend to have advantages because of that. I mean, racial discrimination doesn't exist unless someone has the privilege of not being discriminated against.

    I also don't know why you're making this a "liberal vs. conservative" issue. White privilege is a societal issue. Let's try to keep partisanship out of this and stay on topic.
    It's not liberals vs conservatives. It's liberals vs a well educated and successful black man who is sick of the excuses.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Because, I'm showing your how other cultures have influenced the "white" culture that you criticize so heavily.
    Who's criticizing white culture? You must be very oversensitive if you think what I am doing is criticizing.

    And what do you mean by white? What heritage do you consider white? I'm willing to bet, you'll say Western European.
    Terrible bet. I'm actually referring to American whites. Not white immigrants, or the children of white immigrants, as they are usually members of their ethnic cultures or bi-cultural (ethnic cultures such as Irish or Italian or Russian).

    In the past, white culture used to just be the WASP culture here. Papists like the Micks and Degos were rejected.

    It's not a "white" culture, its an "American culture."
    White American culture.

    Point being, you're criticizing us against a nonexistent standard.
    There's your oversensitivity again. If I have a receding hairline, it is not a criticism to point it out while describing me. I'm not criticizing White American culture by describing it.

    You're saying that America should remain fragmented with completely separate and different cultures.
    No, I'm saying that when one is from the dominant culture they have the privilege of not having to conform to someone else's culture in order to get ahead. They are free to be true to themselves. You are saying that pointing this out somehow makes a value statement, which is patently absurd and sounds more like a result of your own insecurities than anything I have said.


    What I'm saying, is that it is an organic process where the "dominant" culture adopts some aspects of the integrating culture, and the integrating culture adopts some aspects of the "dominant" culture.
    That is what happens... over time. While that is happening, the people in the dominant culture enjoy many privileges that those in the "inferior" culture (the one being "integrated") cannot possibly enjoy by virtue of their inferior position.

    the problem that many white people have is that they expect a process to be instantaneous, or to work far more rapidly than it does.

    The fact is, America is the most culturally diverse country in the world
    I'd say Brazil is more culturally diverse than we are, personally.

    even if we aren't 100% perfect.
    We do not have to be. Pointing out that we aren't is not in any way a criticism because there is no expectation of perfection. There's always room for improvement, of course, but, as I have already said, I don't think this particular issue can be fixed.

    Here's the thing that some people need to realize, though: I'm not criticizing anything.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It's only controversial when people take it personally instead of treating it like a factual social phenomenon.
    If someone takes offense to the discussion of white privilege, that's entirely on them. They are clearly insecure in their own racial identity. Basically, they are no different than a black man who thinks that comparing something to a black hole is racist.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If someone takes offense to the discussion of white privilege, that's entirely on them. They are clearly insecure in their own racial identity. Basically, they are no different than a black man who thinks that comparing something to a black hole is racist.
    Racial identity? My race is human - the human race. There is no other race...just people with different physical characteristics that some people insist actually makes one individual different from another on a non-superficial basis...which is of course nonsense.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Racial identity? My race is human - the human race. There is no other race...just people with different physical characteristics that some people insist actually makes one individual different from another on a non-superficial basis...which is of course nonsense.
    Race is a social construct that exists. Denying it's existence as a social construct doesn't add anything to the discussion at all.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    It's not liberals vs conservatives. It's liberals vs a well educated and successful black man who is sick of the excuses.
    There are no "excuses" created by acknowledging white privilege. White privilege is merely a term which describes the unearned benefits that go along with being white in the US. Those unearned benefits are pretty much just being part of the dominant culture. Just like anything else, the benefits are not universal in every respect. One white person might enjoy more white privilege than another white person, for various reasons. For some individuals, the benefits of white privilege are often overridden by the effects of some other detriment, such as socio-economic status or education (those two things have a far greater overall benefit/detriment effect than race or gender do, IMO).

    And as someone has mentioned before, there is also such a thing as black privilege. There's nothing about excuses.
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