View Poll Results: Does "white privilege exist"?

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why would I need to do that? We're talking about the existence of a thing. I don't have to show it's lack of existence elsewhere in order for it to exist here.

    For example, if I make the claim that the United States has land, I am in no way required to show that Argentina or Zimbabwe do not have land in order for my claim to be accurate.



    Why do you think that this acts as a rebuttal to what I am saying?



    But the real question is why do you think that those answers are relevant to the point being made?



    How are you determining "success"?
    Because, I'm showing your how other cultures have influenced the "white" culture that you criticize so heavily. And what do you mean by white? What heritage do you consider white? I'm willing to bet, you'll say Western European. To which I'd say there are 18 different countries a part of "Western Europe" and 23 different languages in the European Union alone. If you're going to sit here and tell me there isn't a difference between being of Irish decent, as opposed to English, German, Italian, Spanish, or Turkish decent, I'm seriously going to laugh in your face. It's not a "white" culture, its an "American culture." Every previous group of immigrants has successfully blended into and at the same time contributed to the American culture. Its not sad that it continues to go on today, because it goes both ways.

    Point being, you're criticizing us against a nonexistent standard. You're saying that America should remain fragmented with completely separate and different cultures. What I'm saying, is that it is an organic process where the "dominant" culture adopts some aspects of the integrating culture, and the integrating culture adopts some aspects of the "dominant" culture.

    The fact is, America is the most culturally diverse country in the world, even if we aren't 100% perfect.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm not sure why "white male privilage" is so controversial. I think it's pretty established that human beings are tribal. Even in the weakest from people typically associate with individuals that look like them, like the things they do, have similar background etc. If the majority of decision makers, managers, higher income individuals basically any individual that can provide a benefit by getting to know or develop a bond is a white male than there is a white male privilage.

    Take it a step further but generally any successful individual in business generally will give credit to a mentor figure that they've established a bond with that is higher on the organizational chart. They typically talk about how the person may of used influence to help them out or taught them valuable things.

    It's also not a knock against white males as if only white males display behavior that would lead to having an advantage by sharing common traits. If the majority of positions of power were held by another demographic group that demographic group with have "XXX privilage". It's human nature.
    It's only controversial when people take it personally instead of treating it like a factual social phenomenon.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

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    I know. You sound like it.
    You should be proud of what you stand for too. That is what makes this country great. Have a good night.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Are you trying to make a point?
    Yes that so called "white privilege" means nothing to poor caucasians. Most Americans that just happen to be caucasians were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. The ghettos are the same in every neighborhood race plays no part in that reality. Poor is poor and your race will not keep you from becoming poor.

    I realize that you are neck deep in a Left vs Right conversation but that doesnt concern me nor is it actually relevant. It dont matter the race somewhere someone is being discriminated against for the color of their skin. It just depends where you live and what the predominant race is of the locals. If affirmative action is a viable tool to end discrimination then it should be based on where you live not national averages.

    If you are applying for a job where the local population is mostly African American and you are not then affirmative action will discriminate against you. Or in my case I live in area that is mostly Hispanic and I am not, tell me again how my race is going to help me any? I mean most of the police, politicians, business owners are Hispanic.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Yes that so called "white privilege" means nothing to poor caucasians. Most Americans that just happen to be caucasians were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. The ghettos are the same in every neighborhood race plays no part in that reality. Poor is poor and your race will not keep you from becoming poor.
    The existence of class inequality does not negate the reality of white privilege.

    I realize that you are neck deep in a Left vs Right conversation but that doesnt concern me nor is it actually relevant. It dont matter the race somewhere someone is being discriminated against for the color of their skin. It just depends where you live and what the predominant race is of the locals. If affirmative action is a viable tool to end discrimination then it should be based on where you live not national averages.
    Discrimination against white people is exceptionally rare since power structures are dominated by white people. This is just a simple fact. In the United States, discrimination overwhelmingly affects non-whites so no, it doesn't "just depend on where you live."

    If you are applying for a job where the local population is mostly African American and you are not then affirmative action will discriminate against you. Or in my case I live in area that is mostly Hispanic and I am not, tell me again how my race is going to help me any? I mean most of the police, politicians, business owners are Hispanic.
    I don't think you understand what "white privilege" means. It does not mean that every white person is rich, never discriminated against and never in a predominantly non-white neighborhood. Now that you know what "white privilege" is not, maybe you can come back with an argument that actually makes sense?

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    I personally define privilege as something that an institution or individual who is a grantor of what is known as a Positive Right. An example would be the privilege to drive a car the grantor would be the State of residence on an individual. Other examples would include hunting licensees, professional licenses, and construction/industrial use licenses. There is no formal privilege that applies to white people now. More white people may be wealthier than non-white people but owning property is not nor should be a privilege. More white people may have better social networks than non-white people this cannot be considered privilege and given that one of the negative rights is that of free association, there is no point in forcing friendship. The subtle prejudice that exists between a person and another person outside of their group is part of the human condition and while unfortunate doesn't quite rise to the level of privilege.

    So basically I do not think that there is a white privilege, but since unconscious prejudice will exist means can be put in place to avoid falling for it. And that would include any thing other than just race.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The existence of class inequality does not negate the reality of white privilege.
    Says who, you? What do you really know on the subject about how poor whites are treated?


    Discrimination against white people is exceptionally rare since power structures are dominated by white people. This is just a simple fact. In the United States, discrimination overwhelmingly affects non-whites so no, it doesn't "just depend on where you live."
    Yea OK buddy if you say so. How many white people can safely walk around predominately minority neighborhoods?

    You are simply ignorant if you think that racial prejudice against whites is rare. Or perhaps you live in a closet?


    I don't think you understand what "white privilege" means. It does not mean that every white person is rich, never discriminated against and never in a predominantly non-white neighborhood. Now that you know what "white privilege" is not, maybe you can come back with an argument that actually makes sense?
    Thanx for the dogmatic argument but just because you say so isnt a real argument. you can stand on your soap box pointing your finger all that you want but that isnt going make "white privilege" a reality for the majority of white Americans.

    What I tried to show you is that depending where you live things are different, not every where is the same. If you go into a department store in a area with more African American customers then you find things like hair care and cosmetics aimed at the larger African American customer base. It just like stores in warmer climates sell less jackets than in colder climates. Or like where I live there is a 10:1 ratio of Mexican restaurants. Or like in North Portland they sold hair nets and jerry curl juice in 7-11's. it just depends where you live.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    I believe in only one kind of privilege, green. It has little to do with race, sex, religion or creed and allot to do with money and who has it. It just so happens whites have a large percentage, so they seem to have the most privilege.

    If you have money, you have it all. Look at OJ? He beat a murder rap because of green privilege. If he was just another negro on the street, he would have been convicted. As soon as he ran out of green, what happened? He's serving time, period.

    So race? Throw that shxt out the window. Institutionalized racism is for the most part dead. All hail greenism. The bigotry of the future... and beyond!
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    When will people realize that reality has nothing to do with what you "believe." It has to do with what is. And white privilege is - and isn't negated by upper class privilege no matter how hard people try to claim that it is.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Lol... Nazi makes thread, the usual critters come out from under the floor to complain about how they haven't benefited from white privilege as if it's some kind of VISA you get simply for being born white.
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