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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes, that's it. Because at no point were black people on a lower rung of the ladder than white people.

    I swear, in the minds of some of you people there's this idea that at the end of the civil war black people were instantly raised to equal status with everybody else.
    Oh my. Well, that settles it. Each race is a hive mind and it is a completely collective entity. This is what is wrong with you people, you communists, you put everything in groups. You bunch them all together and draw stupid conclusions. And I am using the word communist correctly here. Progressive means to actually progress in civic duty and nationhood, not be a backwards collectivist. You shame that word, like many others, but that's besides the point.

    Look here. Affirmative action is a racist joke, made by people who decided that they can grasp political votes on public taxpayer funds. And they can. And they do. And you all fall for it like its candy. It isn't candy, its sh!t. And it contributes more and more to racism and bigotry, the unhealthy kind, and makes everybody filled with paranoia and stupidity. Stop it. The real success stories in the black community didn't come from affirmative action. It came from the private companies and corporations and private initiatives. Not government programs.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Are you kidding? If anything, I'm at a DISadvantage today as a white male.

    Revoke Affirmative Action and actually judge men by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. And quit giving women everything they want.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    "White Privilege" in America most certainly exists, although I dislike the terminology. It is actually the advantages of implicit acceptance that one gains by being part of a dominant social grouping. The primary advantage of being white in America is that your skin color automatically means you are part of the social norm.

    That may not seem like much, but one cannot appreciate its importance until you suddenly lose. If a white American moved to a country with a different dominant social group, say Japan, the negative consequences of being implicitly treated as an outsider are quite clear. You are considered different and society makes you feel it.You find yourself having to prove yourself to everyone you meet rather than starting on an equal footing. If you are unlucky, you run into people who are truly discriminatory.

    The focus should really be shifted to the power dynamics rather than labeling on groups that traditionally had power. The key is to look at who holds the means of power: raw numbers, wealth, social status, military status, political influence ect. White Heterosexual Christian Males meet those factors in the U.S., but Arab Heterosexual Muslim Males dominate Saudi Arabia. Its not about feeling guilty either, but simply about understanding the reality of the situation.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Oh my. Well, that settles it. Each race is a hive mind and it is a completely collective entity. This is what is wrong with you people, you communists, you put everything in groups. You bunch them all together and draw stupid conclusions. And I am using the word communist correctly here. Progressive means to actually progress in civic duty and nationhood, not be a backwards collectivist. You shame that word, like many others, but that's besides the point.

    Look here. Affirmative action is a racist joke, made by people who decided that they can grasp political votes on public taxpayer funds. And they can. And they do. And you all fall for it like its candy. It isn't candy, its sh!t. And it contributes more and more to racism and bigotry, the unhealthy kind, and makes everybody filled with paranoia and stupidity. Stop it. The real success stories in the black community didn't come from affirmative action. It came from the private companies and corporations and private initiatives. Not government programs.
    Out of curiosity, when do you think racism in any significant form came to an end?

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    I actually find it weird that this is a debate for anybody and how anybody thinks it doesnt exist.

    I mean people understand that simply telling a story or even many stories about situations where one feels that being white hindered them that doesnt change the fact that white privilege still exists.

    its the same thing with racism, i could tell story after story how people are not racist, that doesnt mean racism doesnt exist.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Out of curiosity, when do you think racism in any significant form came to an end?
    ... Oh boy. Well, based on what definition and in what capacity of racism are we talking about?
    Institutional racism? It's alive and kicking. Affirmative action is the love child of racism. Only the political correct term for that is positive discrimination. But don't be fooled by the rhetoric, it is racism. The bad kind. The worst kind actually because it is hypocritical.

    What else...

    Racism on an inter-personal level? I doubt you can ever, under current circumstances, get rid of people who hate other races just because. You have racist people and supremacists on all sides of the skin color. Whites, asians, indians, jews, arabs, blacks and what naught. Just in the US, look how many racist groups there that promote racism on an inter-personal and institutional level. Westboro baptist, Black Panther party, KKK, NAACP, AIPAC, etc.

    What else...

    Ah, fake racism. this will always exist. This is the kind of racism idiots pass off as racism. Its the most common form of racism and it is there because racism is not really a well-defined concept and everybody abuses that word worse than a holywood abuses their remakes of movies. And it is found everyday. Most of the people that say that they see racism everyday, mean this kind of racism. This fake, non-substantial, full of crap, I'm holier than thou racism. Which isn't really racism at all. It is just... part of awkward experiences people have in their everyday lives because everybody is different.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

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    ... Oh boy. Well, based on what definition and in what capacity of racism are we talking about?
    Institutional racism? It's alive and kicking. Affirmative action is the love child of racism. Only the political correct term for that is positive discrimination. But don't be fooled by the rhetoric, it is racism. The bad kind. The worst kind actually because it is hypocritical.

    What else...

    Racism on an inter-personal level? I doubt you can ever, under current circumstances, get rid of people who hate other races just because. You have racist people and supremacists on all sides of the skin color. Whites, asians, indians, jews, arabs, blacks and what naught. Just in the US, look how many racist groups there that promote racism on an inter-personal and institutional level. Westboro baptist, Black Panther party, KKK, NAACP, AIPAC, etc.

    What else...

    Ah, fake racism. this will always exist. This is the kind of racism idiots pass off as racism. Its the most common form of racism and it is there because racism is not really a well-defined concept and everybody abuses that word worse than a holywood abuses their remakes of movies. And it is found everyday. Most of the people that say that they see racism everyday, mean this kind of racism. This fake, non-substantial, full of crap, I'm holier than thou racism. Which isn't really racism at all. It is just... part of awkward experiences people have in their everyday lives because everybody is different.
    factual AA/EO has nothing to do with racism at all.

    Now there are people/orgs that have racist policies and then they label it AA/EO but that doesnt make it true at all.

    I can punch you in the mouth and call it love all i want that doesnt make it so.
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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Are you kidding? If anything, I'm at a DISadvantage today as a white male.

    Revoke Affirmative Action and actually judge men by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. And quit giving women everything they want.
    You sound more like an extreme conserative than you do a libitarian.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    factual AA/EO has nothing to do with racism at all.

    Now there are people/orgs that have racist policies and then they label it AA/EO but that doesnt make it true at all.

    I can punch you in the mouth and call it love all i want that doesnt make it so.
    Why isn't it racist? It is aimed at racial groups exclusively while disconsidering other groups entirely. And, all the racial groups have to chip in for things they don't get back because of that program. It seems pretty racist from where I'm standing.

    And your example is stupid. First off, you can call it whatever you want, from where I'm standing, I will know that it isn't love. And you will suffer the immediate consequences of your actions. But this is because we are private individuals. You can't do that with the government. And you can't have a government that is supported by (and should represent) all people and have racial programs for some people. It just doesn't work that way.

    Surprisingly, you can be a politician. You can do bad stuff and call it a positive word. That also makes you an hypocrite. And it is exactly what the political class and other "social leaders" have done. They replaced racism with "positive discrimination". It's just a joke. And the bad part is, that you, the citizen, are the one they are laughing at.

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    Re: Does "white privilege" exist? If so, should it be corrected?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    1.)Why isn't it racist? It is aimed at racial groups exclusively while disconsidering other groups entirely. And, all the racial groups have to chip in for things they don't get back because of that program. It seems pretty racist from where I'm standing.

    2.)And your example is stupid. First off, you can call it whatever you want, from where I'm standing, I will know that it isn't love. And you will suffer the immediate consequences of your actions. But this is because we are private individuals. You can't do that with the government. And you can't have a government that is supported by (and should represent) all people and have racial programs for some people. It just doesn't work that way.

    3.)Surprisingly, you can be a politician. You can do bad stuff and call it a positive word. That also makes you an hypocrite. And it is exactly what the political class and other "social leaders" have done. They replaced racism with "positive discrimination". It's just a joke. And the bad part is, that you, the citizen, are the one they are laughing at.
    1.) easy because REAL AA/EO is only a policy and program to make sure ALL groups are represented and given an oppurtunity, nothing more.

    2.) the example is spot on because real AA/EO is defined and has a definitions and other things falsely labeled AA/EO arent factually AA/EO the same with my example.

    3.) yes, sometimes this happens and its NOT factual AA/EO.
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