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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    CA has some of the stricter gun laws correct? Well here are there not to impressive stats from 2009.

    Lets look at what really matters....

    Handgun:
    All Crimes 81.6%
    Other than homicides 75.4%
    Drug trafficking 92%
    Street Gang 83.3%
    Homicides 75%


    Rfile:
    All Crime 8.8%
    Other than homicide 13.9%
    Drug trafficking 4%
    Street Gang 0% <------ Important
    Homicides 9%

    http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pd..._Report_09.pdf

    Rifle includes ALL rifles not just assault rifles. So why do your numbers matter again?

    Nationwide looks much worse for people such as your self being scared of scary looking rifles.
    My #'s matter because they show that in certain situations, historically speaking, AW's have been more dangerous than pistols, which is directly relevant to the question asked in the OP
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    More dangerous to who? Under what circumstances? Who is wielding the pistol or assault rifle?
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    When taken out of context "which you seem to do... allot" you are completely wrong. None of the cosmetic military adaptations on rifles are a factor in crime, period.
    I said nothing about crime. I merely pointed out that the claim that those features are "purely cosmetic" was both incorrect and stupid.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    More dangerous to who? Under what circumstances? Who is wielding the pistol or assault rifle?
    The people who were killed

    The circumstances involving the crimes with the greatest # of gun fatalities

    No, in those cases, the perp often offs himself, surrenders, or is subdued
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Try listing gun homicides by the number of people killed.
    Or try listing gun homicides by the number of people killed per gun in the U.S.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Pistol grips are generally for 2 functions: 1.) Accuracy in super precision shooting. The USA and other Olympics teams use thumb grip .22s. 2.) Control - such as is common in home defense inexpensive pump shotguns.

    Flash diverters/muzzlebrakes are mostly just cosmetic in smaller calibers - and an ABSOLUTE MUST in big game calibers. Weatherbys - for example - which solely are bolt action hunting rifles generally holding 5 or less cartridges - come with a muzzlebrake for all calibers of 30-378 and higher because without one they can break a shoulder or damage a person's eye by the scope - as a muzzlebrake reduces recoil.

    In short, outlawing muzzlebrakes is an attack against hunters and target shooters, not mass killers. The attack against pistol grips is an attempt to outlaw home defense typically 5-6 shell pump shotguns.

    These proposed laws are about hatred of hunters, target shooters and specifically-for-home-defense shotguns. SO... every time you read an anti-gun person say "people can just have shotguns for home defense" know they are ALWAYS lying. They want home defense shotguns, hunting rifles and target rifles outlawed - and at the top of their list.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I said nothing about crime. I merely pointed out that the claim that those features are "purely cosmetic" was both incorrect and stupid.
    On a civilian rifle they are cosmetic as in they look even if they do not preform like the military version. Please stop dancing around.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    Or try listing gun homicides by the number of people killed per gun in the U.S.

    Or list the 500,000 people per year who scared of (didn't even shoot) home invaders each year with a firearm!

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    i said nothing about the relative dangers of any weapon
    You are arguing that those cosmetic features matter. Both of those weapons I listed are the same weapon. They do however has certain cosmetic differences.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The people who were killed

    The circumstances involving the crimes with the greatest # of gun fatalities
    Which people who were killed? Are we just talking in general? Because if so, the number of people killed each year by handguns vastly outnumbers the people killed each year by 'assault' weapons.
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