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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?[W: 207]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's a trick question in 2 ways:
    1. Some pistols are also 'assault weapons", they aren't necessarily different things.
    2. Neither pistols or "assault weapons" are dangerous items. Firearms are in fact very safe to have on and about your person.
    1) most pistols use in crime, are not assault weapons.
    2)correct

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?[W: 207]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    1) most pistols use in crime, are not assault weapons.
    That doesn't change what I said

    "Some pistols are also assault weapons" does not contradict "most pistols use in crime, are not assault weapons". Both can be true at the same time.

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    Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?[W: 207]

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    IN all fairness, Sangha has been rather careful not to actually come out and support bans based on these features
    I suppose you are right. Doesn't change that he is wrong about the pistol grip though lol.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?[W: 207]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That doesn't change what I said

    "Some pistols are also assault weapons" does not contradict "most pistols use in crime, are not assault weapons". Both can be true at the same time.
    I expect a level of intelligence in debate forum. Where your statement may be true, it is irrelevant.
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    I expect a level of intelligence in debate forum. Where your statement may be true, it is irrelevant.
    Maybe you should start living by your own standard.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?[W: 207]

    seems to me there are enough idiotic posts by gun haters for pro gun advocates to take issue with rather than getting into a pissing contest over definitions. But the fact remains, the stuff that the democrats want to ban is not based on "dangerous features" but rather how readily they can convince the LIVs that those weapons are like the stuff LIVs see in movies and violent TV shows.



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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, that is the crux of the disagreement. As far as how much of a difference it makes, I have not made any assertions, so I have nothing to prove. My point being that if these features do make a difference, then it is dishonest for some people to claim that they don't make any difference, or are purely cosmetic.
    As has already been stated, these features do have functions, and none of those functions make a rifle any more dangerous. They look more dangerous, but they are not more dangerous... which is why the call to ban them is based on purely cosmetic grounds.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    As has already been stated, these features do have functions, and none of those functions make a rifle any more dangerous. They look more dangerous, but they are not more dangerous... which is why the call to ban them is based on purely cosmetic grounds.
    you are sort of correct. They don't even make the weapon in a vacuum look more dangerous

    what they do is they make the weapon look like a military weapon which movies and the press have told people are dangerous.

    In the late 80's a particular venal POS named Josh Sugarmann (who had been booted from the Brady conspiracy against our second amendment rights) realized that the democratic party's jihad against pistols was floundering so he wanted to find another angle to disarm (conservative) law abiding americans who might oppose his socialist extremism with more than talk So he sent a paper to left leaning journalists telling them that the average LIV couldn't tell the difference between an AR 15 and an M16 and that the journalists should deliberately confuse the two by showing films of RAMBO etc when talking about "assault weapons"

    its guilt by association with weapons that should be the most sacrosanct under the second amendment-standard infantry or militia weapons



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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are sort of correct. They don't even make the weapon in a vacuum look more dangerous

    what they do is they make the weapon look like a military weapon which movies and the press have told people are dangerous.
    Pretty much what I said, yeah. "Military" looks must mean military capability. That's the ridiculous logic in play, I surmise.

    I suppose Hummers should be banned too. Because, you know, they look military, and nobody needs a vehicle made for screening armor movements and negotiating rough terrain. That is a military function, and as such poses a danger to the peaceful, law abiding citizens of San Fransisco.
    "Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
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