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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    It's actually very simple. In the Army we're trained in reflexive fire exercises to lower the weapon after we fire to prevent unwanted casualties. It's to build muscle memory, reduce unwanted casualties, and maintain a higher field of vision than possible through looking down the sights.
    Yes, in the army, with repetitive training so it becomes a reflexive action. I agree.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the victim isn't right in front of the shooter, he'll have to turn and locate the target.

    Pumped up with adrenaline, that might not be as easy as it normally is because the adrenaline can produce tunnel vision.

    This might take only half a second (ie a split second), or it might take considerably longer, particularly if the person has taken cover.
    They would have to do that if their weapon was at the ready as well. Raising your weapon is only going to add a split second onto the time it takes to shoot and you arnt going to be fatigued when shooting from holding your weapon at the ready.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?[W: 207]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Being that pistols are far more likely to be used in crime
    That's a trick question in 2 ways:
    1. Some pistols are also 'assault weapons", they aren't necessarily different things.
    2. Neither pistols or "assault weapons" are dangerous items. Firearms are in fact very safe to have on and about your person.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's funny when the pro-gunnies demonstrate an ignorance of firearms.

    Those "cosmetic" features are all functional, which is why the military buys weapons with those features. I don't know what type of delusion leads some people to think the military buys weapons because of their
    "cosmetic" value.
    Doesn't matter because every kind of firearm should be freely accessible to anyone who wants one. Grips, mags, scopes, whatever, doesn't matter, all should be as freely accessible as any car or same-sex marriage or abortion or liquor or tobacco or anything else.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, in the army, with repetitive training so it becomes a reflexive action. I agree.
    It takes maybe half a day of training to get down. The AR-15 was designed so that someone who never shot a firearm before could get issued one, and become a proficient marksman in under a week. It's a terrible rifle though, plagued with inherent flaws and weaknesses.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Doesn't matter because every kind of firearm should be freely accessible to anyone who wants one. Grips, mags, scopes, whatever, doesn't matter, all should be as freely accessible as any car or same-sex marriage or abortion or liquor or tobacco or anything else.
    So you agree with the others who claim that those features are purely cosmetic, and would be of no use to a civilian?
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you agree with the others who claim that those features are purely cosmetic, and would be of no use to a civilian?
    You and I have already been through this. You shouldn't be asking me this question because you should have a normal healthy memory and already know.

    There's a difference between a 'cosmetic', and 'accessory', and a 'part'. I've gon into detail explaining each, and the bottom line is it doesn't matter which thing is what because citizens have the right to everything.

    That's what people are trying to tell you, that whatever firearm, accessories and cosmetics exist, civilians have the right to personally own, without exception or limitation, and kind of firearm at all.

    If you want a howitzer, you let me know when you're hitting the artillery rang, I'll bring the BBQ. You want a Saturday Night Special, go for it. You want a tricked out silenced full-auto MP5, no problem. You want a small-caliber hand gun with 19rnds with a modified trigger to fire 2rnds per trigger-pull, groovy.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    I think any firearm in the hands of a liberal is dangerous because they don't know how to use them. They might shoot their ear or finger off watching MSNBC and not paying attention to their right as an American. Or maybe that was out of line and their are some libs here on DP that have firearms and are not buying into this hysteria of taking our rights away.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome! View Post
    I think any firearm in the hands of a liberal is dangerous because they don't know how to use them. They might shoot their ear or finger off watching MSNBC and not paying attention to their right as an American. Or maybe that was out of line and their are some libs here on DP that have firearms and are not buying into this hysteria of taking our rights away.
    I'm less concerned about a liberal with a gun, and more concerned about a liberal with a pen.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I said nothing about pistol grips improving the rate of fire.





    And additional rounds heat itup even more. More importantly, repeated fire means the barrel *stays* hot.

    If the shooter only intends on shooting one bullet, then a shroud is irrelevant. But, as is the case in some recent incidents, the shooter intends to engage in prolonged period of shooting people, the shroud can be of assistance to the shooter.

    And rifles with pistols grips can be fired with one hand

    Pistol grips also make it easier to place the operating controls ergonomically, making it easier to release the magazine while keeping ones finger on the trigger, which can be helpful to someone who intends to shoot a lot of people. It can also make it easier to switch fire modes.
    Reading comprehension. Quoting yourself. Basic physics.

    All are things you have failed at in this thread.

    First of all, you can't fire a weapon while performing a magazine change, because you perform a magazine change when you are out of bullets to fire. And "assault weapons" (hearafter referred to as "defense weapons") do not have selective fire capability.

    Are you arguing with any specific point in mind, or do you just crave attention? It is beyond obvious that you dont have the first clue as to what you are talking about.
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