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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Split second?

    Sounds like the shooter has the gun at the ready, even though you said he wouldnt
    It only takes a split second longer to raise a weapon.

    Edit: Plus if a shooter were to keep their weapon at the ready the entire time they would be pretty damned fatigued.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    The concept is to push the firearm straight back into the shoulder pocket to reduce muzzle climb. I personally haven't noticed a significant difference in muzzle climb between either configuration. After firing an AR-15, followed by a Ruger Mini-14, the only change in target acquisition was due to the different sights. In a 12 gauge shotgun it wouldn't be desirable at all, since it would put more pressure and force into the shoulder.
    That makes sense, but I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly

    Are you saying that it (does or is supposed to) prevent the stock from moving out of its' optimal position in the shoulder pocket?

    And is this desireable?
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    It only takes a split second longer to raise a weapon.

    Edit: Plus if a shooter were to keep their weapon at the ready the entire time they would be pretty damned fatigued.
    Is raising the weapon all they have to do?

    I think not. At least, not always
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Is raising the weapon all they have to do?

    I think not. At least, not always
    You raise the weapon and acquire the target. Doesnt take long.

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    You raise the weapon and acquire the target. Doesnt take long.
    It's not as simple as you make it sound.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That makes sense, but I want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly

    Are you saying that it (does or is supposed to) prevent the stock from moving out of its' optimal position in the shoulder pocket?

    And is this desireable?
    It's supposed to reduce muzzle climb (the force of the round and expended gasses forcing the barrel upwards). If it made any significant difference it would be, but I haven't noticed any. It's more or less what the shooter personally finds to be more comfortable to fire.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's not as simple as you make it sound.
    Fine. What else do you think you have to do?

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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    It's supposed to reduce muzzle climb (the force of the round and expended gasses forcing the barrel upwards). If it made any significant difference it would be, but I haven't noticed any. It's more or less what the shooter personally finds to be more comfortable to fire.
    That makes sense. Thanks

    So some people would find that it helps them keep their weapon on target, as opposed to slightly above target. As you said, not such a huge difference that everyone will appreciate, but some seem to.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's not as simple as you make it sound.
    It's actually very simple. In the Army we're trained in reflexive fire exercises to lower the weapon after we fire to prevent unwanted casualties. It's to build muscle memory, reduce unwanted casualties, and maintain a higher field of vision than possible through looking down the sights.
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    Re: Are assault weapons more or less dangerous than pistols?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Fine. What else do you think you have to do?
    If the victim isn't right in front of the shooter, he'll have to turn and locate the target.

    Pumped up with adrenaline, that might not be as easy as it normally is because the adrenaline can produce tunnel vision.

    This might take only half a second (ie a split second), or it might take considerably longer, particularly if the person has taken cover.
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