View Poll Results: Should marijuana be legalized at the federal level?

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, I don't think it should be legalized because it is bad for public health and we don't need it as an OTC product.
    Why shouldn't a principle that you apply to one thing not be applied elsewhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I do think that violators should be fined instead of imprisoned.
    I am clear on this. It need not be brought up again.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 02-18-13 at 06:57 PM.

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    I think the point that Cardinal is making is why not do the same for tobacco and alcohol. Make them illegal but limit punishment to fines. Certainly those 2 aren't helping public health much.

    If somebody is ambitious enough to produce their own, so be it. As long as they don';t get caught, it will surely discourage many.

    Until 10 years ago, possession of marijuana in any amount was a felony in NV. So, we have/had tens of thousands of decent people that are now ex-felons. Nowadays, the fines are the main response to illegal possession.

    But consistency and rationality dictate that all these things be in one category or another. Alcohol is definitely a near-dangerous drug and tobacco is a major health problem.

    Please notice I don't bring up obesity. That is simply not a deliberate negative health condition.


    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, I don't think it should be legalized because it is bad for public health and we don't need it as an OTC product. I do think that violators should be fined instead of imprisoned.

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Please notice I don't bring up obesity. That is simply not a deliberate negative health condition.
    What's the difference between possibly getting cardiovascular disease as a result of obesity and possibly getting lung cancer as result of smoking tobacco?

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Easy to answer.

    I have known a number of people who would be considered obese. I have seen their valiant efforts at diet and exercize and yet, as one of them put it "I drink a glass of water and I gain 5 pouns". In short, there are many obese people who are not obese because of irresponsible choices but because of metabolic and genetic hereditary issues. To punish anyone for something that is not a complete choice, is as morally wrong as I can imagine. Myself, I am anything ut obese, I'm what you would call slender.

    Tobacco is a completely different choice. True, it is highly addictive and for some, at least, very difficult to quit. But it isn't impossible to quit. I am a smoker and I would still advocate for eliminating all formal, legal options to continue my habit with. If I just can't quit, then I must choose to take the risk of growing and curing my own tobacco, in secret and in shame. Since I have a "black thumb", I assure you I would just quit. But it certainly has been my CHOICE to continue.




    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    What's the difference between possibly getting cardiovascular disease as a result of obesity and possibly getting lung cancer as result of smoking tobacco?

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Easy to answer.

    I have known a number of people who would be considered obese. I have seen their valiant efforts at diet and exercize and yet, as one of them put it "I drink a glass of water and I gain 5 pouns". In short, there are many obese people who are not obese because of irresponsible choices but because of metabolic and genetic hereditary issues. To punish anyone for something that is not a complete choice, is as morally wrong as I can imagine. Myself, I am anything ut obese, I'm what you would call slender.

    Tobacco is a completely different choice. True, it is highly addictive and for some, at least, very difficult to quit. But it isn't impossible to quit. I am a smoker and I would still advocate for eliminating all formal, legal options to continue my habit with. If I just can't quit, then I must choose to take the risk of growing and curing my own tobacco, in secret and in shame. Since I have a "black thumb", I assure you I would just quit. But it certainly has been my CHOICE to continue.
    Do you think the majority of people who are obese are living healthy lifestyles, eating healthy, exercising regularly, etc? Or do you think the number of people who are obese due to genetic factors is a slim minority? I would have to go with the latter. Obesity has been on an exponential increase in the United States. There's a reason for that, and its not genetic.

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    I hate pot, it stinks and the users are typically idiots. but it should be a state issue, abolish the Federal Law.

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Legalization at the federal level does leave it to the states, just as the repeal of alcohol prohibition did.
    Which is exactly where the decision should be made. Where does the Constitution give the feds the right to outlaw pot? At least, when they attempted to outlaw alcohol, they amended the Constitution first. With pot, they just ignored that document and went right ahead as if it didn't exist.
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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    I don't know the answer to that and neither IMHO do you.

    I personally know several (women) who diet carefully and still gain weight. In one case, I believe it is thyroid conditions. I'm not qualified to make this judgement in general.

    In any case, I don't think it is at all appropriate to make this judgement since it condemns the innocent and the guilty alike. It is not comparable to any of the other options under discussion. There is not one person in the world that has no options in addictions. There are certainly some people for whom weight is not under their control. You must buy drugs. You don't "buy" weight.

    I might support an insurance company decision to add a fee IF the MD has determined that the weight problem is entirely voluntary.


    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    Do you think the majority of people who are obese are living healthy lifestyles, eating healthy, exercising regularly, etc? Or do you think the number of people who are obese due to genetic factors is a slim minority? I would have to go with the latter. Obesity has been on an exponential increase in the United States. There's a reason for that, and its not genetic.

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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Which is exactly where the decision should be made. Where does the Constitution give the feds the right to outlaw pot? At least, when they attempted to outlaw alcohol, they amended the Constitution first. With pot, they just ignored that document and went right ahead as if it didn't exist.
    Yep. I agree 100% that there is not any difference, Constitutionally, between the recreational drug alcohol and marijuana, cocaine, heroin, meth, ecstasy or LSD. The SCOTUS does not seem to care to deal with it. It is very odd that the states may freely violate federal drug laws, gun laws and immigration laws, but mess with voter ID and the feds swoop down on them immediatley. Some things just cannot be explained.
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    Re: Do you support federal marijuana legalization?

    Yes. Absoultely. Legalize marijuana and regulate it like alcohol. Decriminalize "hard drugs" and control them. End the Idiotic War on (some) Drugs.

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