View Poll Results: Who to Blame for Obamacares' Failures?

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  • They wil blame Republicans, claiming Obamacare was their idea

    57 44.19%
  • They will blame themselves for not pushing single payer

    29 22.48%
  • They will blame providers and insurers for attempting to survive

    60 46.51%
  • IT WAS THAT VILLIAN, GEORGE BUSH!

    63 48.84%
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    Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Right, so. Obamacare is now bending the cost-curve up, millions are going to lose their health insurance, the IRS is saying that the cheapest plan under Obamacares' exchanges will cost $20,000 for a family of five by 2016 and increase out of pocket costs even AFTER the subsidies, the hundreds of billions in cuts to Medicare to fund the program will cause many doctors to stop taking Medicare patients, and if we don't make those cuts to providers, then the costs of Obamacare, which are already rising, to explode. 26 States are refusing to work with HHS, and Obamacare's implementation, already well behind track threatens to fall further and further behind even as it is announced that they will not, actually, technically, so-to-speak, be able to help the people the bill was purported to aid.




    So. As this disaster of a behemoth of a bill continues to flail and fail, who are the Democrats going to blame? How far down the rabbit hole are they willing to go, ears plugged, eyes closed?

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Should note - this poll is prefaced upon the assumption that at some point the ability to deny what is happening will break, and they will have to blame somebody.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Your poll is also prefaced by the assumption that Obamacare will fail.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    None of those. They will deny it was a failure.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your poll is also prefaced by the assumption that Obamacare will fail.
    This, I don't believe it will fail, so I can't vote in your poll.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your poll is also prefaced by the assumption that Obamacare will fail.
    There is no way for it to do otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    None of those. They will deny it was a failure.
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    This, I don't believe it will fail, so I can't vote in your poll.

    Quod erat demonstrandum.

    I think most Americans understood from the beginning that there was no way that this massive scam could possibly succeed at achieving any of what it was claimed to be intended to achieve. As the inevitability of failure becomes increasingly obvious, there are still quite a few suckers who deny the obvious, and I think that this will remain true, no matter how massive and how obvious this failure becomes.

    The famous statement popularly, but incorrectly attributed to P. T. Barnum is, in fact, a massive understatement.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your poll is also prefaced by the assumption that Obamacare will fail.
    Sort of. Prefaced upon the description of how it is currently failing.

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    Re: A Sucker Born Every Minute…

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Quod erat demonstrandum.

    I think most Americans understood from the beginning that there was no way that this massive scam could possibly succeed at achieving any of what it was claimed to be intended to achieve. As the inevitability of failure becomes increasingly obvious, there are still quite a few suckers who deny the obvious, and I think that this will remain true, no matter how massive and how obvious this failure becomes.

    The famous statement popularly, but incorrectly attributed to P. T. Barnum is, in fact, a massive understatement.
    There is one more step needed - to remove medical care insurance from being offered as an employer paid, tax free, benefit. Perhaps the push to raise the minimum wage is designed to push more folks into PPACA and off of Medicaid. It never made sense to have so many federal gov't controlled medical care systems; Medicare, Medicaid (including CHIPS) , PPACA, Maternal and child health block grant program, Public Health Service Act, Indian Health Care Improvement Act, Federal employees health benefits program, Military health care system (including Tricare and CHAMPUS programs), Veterans medical care, Health services for Peace Corps volunteers and Medical services for Federal prisoners.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Sort of. Prefaced upon the description of how it is currently failing.
    Close, prefaced upon how people who say what you want to hear are telling you it is failing, by giving you inaccurate and incomplete pictures, and you buying into those lies. For example you mentions millions losing insurance, but fail to note that those people will still have access to insurance, and the number of insured will go up. it's deceptive practices like that which are the norm for your sources. Reminds me of when you where portraying Ryan's economic plan as from Simpson Bowles, without mentioning that all of the balancing items from Simpson Bowles got omitted, kinda like a kid who decides to eat only their desert but claims he ate what we given to him. The fact you are using editorial sources even in this OP is a sign of how desperate you are to try and make a case that isn't made.

    I am not a fan of Obamacare/ACA or whatever it is being called by whatever group, but I will actually let it happen before declaring it failed. That would actually be, you know, honest. Building straw men to try and score political points just makes this whole thread painfully silly, not that it has ever slowed you down as this thread shows.
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