View Poll Results: Who to Blame for Obamacares' Failures?

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  • They wil blame Republicans, claiming Obamacare was their idea

    57 44.19%
  • They will blame themselves for not pushing single payer

    29 22.48%
  • They will blame providers and insurers for attempting to survive

    60 46.51%
  • IT WAS THAT VILLIAN, GEORGE BUSH!

    63 48.84%
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Thread: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    There's nothing wrong with that - there is, however, something wrong with the government forcing its citizens to go into the market and purchase a product/service that they either don't want or feel they don't need.

    Maybe you like public transit - should the government be able to force the car driving public to go out and buy a monthly transit pass simply because it makes it cheaper to provide public transportation to those who use it and can't afford it?

    There's a big difference between forcing someone to buy a product and progressively taxing the public to fund a healthcare system that provides the same services and benefits to all citizens regardless of their station in life.


    Similar to our social security....which was "forced" upon our people, a century ago ??
    The thing is, the masses (like me) are simply not that good at making wise decision regarding retirement and health care...and we are the majority of the population...The rich, generally do not have to consider such things , I guess...
    So, what I am saying is that the "people" do not completely know what they need for their lifetime..
    As with social security retirement, health care should be paid into for a long time (50 years or so)..
    Transportation has nothing to do with this, individual or mass...
    No, we should not have to "buy" a "product" or service, taxes will do....I am against insurance...

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A "like", even if I disagree.....possibily valid points...
    Hopefully, the Obama-care is patterned after VA care, which is, I believe, subsidized by our government.
    The VA care is good and affordable, IMO.
    Only a fool or a hypochrondiac would abuse it...I imagine that this does happen on occasion, , but each medical visit costs and takes valuable time..
    As to running out of doctors.....this is dubious at best....but I have not seen a "doctor " in years..The "nurse practitioners" have taken over..

    What I wonder about is this - why must conservatives be so negative about things ??
    I beg to differ about VA care. It takes months to get care, they are backlogged by claims, they "lose" paperwork all the time, and if you don't have a comma or period on paperwork where it should be, they kick it back to you after months of it being in the pile. All of this is going to sound very familiar to all Americans soon. Sure, the care is decent once you actually get to see a doctor. But that's the issue, getting to see the doctor.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    I just don't see how you can add millions of people without increasing the number of doctors and expect healthcare to improve. There are millions of nurses and nurse practiticioners already in the field and there are shortages of them to. You can only pile so much on them.
    We could just allow these "millions" to suffer and die.....this seems to be what the conservatives want ...???
    Or, we could force our health care system to be more efficient...another word for reform and improvement.
    More opinion...if maufacturing was health care...we would be paying $100,000 for Model T Fords......and this (indirectly, of course) is my experience.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    We could just allow these "millions" to suffer and die.....this seems to be what the conservatives want ...???
    Are they suffering and dying now?
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    We could just allow these "millions" to suffer and die.....this seems to be what the conservatives want ...???
    Or, we could force our health care system to be more efficient...another word for reform and improvement.
    More opinion...if maufacturing was health care...we would be paying $100,000 for Model T Fords......and this (indirectly, of course) is my experience.
    Do we currently have millions suffering and dying from lack of available health care?

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Do we currently have millions suffering and dying from lack of available health care?
    I think the answer is obvious. Just this weekend on C-Span's Washington Journal an article claimed that up 100's of thousands , (I think it was 170,000) families faced homelessness if the automatic budget cuts went into effect because their subsidized rent will be cut. I am sure there is a whole army of government agents just waiting to go throw them out into the streets. It is nothing the political scare tactics.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Are they suffering and dying now?
    Whoops. Sorry. I didn't mean to repeat your obvious point.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosteve View Post
    I think the answer is obvious. Just this weekend on C-Span's Washington Journal an article claimed that up 100's of thousands , (I think it was 170,000) families faced homelessness if the automatic budget cuts went into effect because their subsidized rent will be cut. I am sure there is a whole army of government agents just waiting to go throw them out into the streets. It is nothing the political scare tactics.
    I agree Steve. That we will always have such problems is not an excuse to do nothing. But when the cure is worse than the disease, maybe we should step back and reconsider the cure. The weight of Obamacare is just too much to carry.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    They will probably blame the practitioners and insurance companies, maybe Bush as well.

    The only way I see the Dems blaming themselves is if they take a standpoint of "we weren't liberal enough."

    Some things in Obamacare are ok, but it should still be repealed and replaced.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Whoops. Sorry. I didn't mean to repeat your obvious point.
    You can never ask the obvious to many times!
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