View Poll Results: Who to Blame for Obamacares' Failures?

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  • They wil blame Republicans, claiming Obamacare was their idea

    57 44.19%
  • They will blame themselves for not pushing single payer

    29 22.48%
  • They will blame providers and insurers for attempting to survive

    60 46.51%
  • IT WAS THAT VILLIAN, GEORGE BUSH!

    63 48.84%
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It does. Both are a public concern that is too large for many individuals. And both can bleed into the backyards of others.
    The federal government has no business in providing health care, period...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Kind of a way to ignore facts, isn't it?
    Au contraire. It requires that I think for myself.
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The federal government has no business in providing health care, period...
    Nice declarative statement but neither supported nor on point. Doctors and medical people provide healthcare, not government. All we're speaking about is how to pay for it.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Au contraire. It requires that I think for myself.
    Not accepting facts and sound reasoning isn't really what thinking for yourself means. More like refusing to think.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nice declarative statement but neither supported nor on point. Doctors and medical people provide healthcare, not government. All we're speaking about is how to pay for it.
    Wordsmithing won't help you make a point as to why the federal government should provide for an individuals care...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The point was, both were going to keep it. However, talk is cheap. Not sure I have any reason to trust insurance companies who have been raising premiums and cutting service for sometime now. UHC would be more efficient. Make more sense. This bill isn't perfect. I say stop the fear mongering and have representatives go to work improving it.
    I'm in agreement with you on that!

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Wordsmithing won't help you make a point as to why the federal government should provide for an individuals care...
    1. It takes insurance out of the work place. This helps business and allows the US to compete with countries who have UHC.

    2. It's more efficient. That's easily measurable. The worse UHC system (and there are many different versions) pay less and over more than we do.

    3. We can focus on the best practices and not on snake oil. Buyer beware is problematic in healthcare. Desperate people are willing to buy any poison with the promise of Miracle.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    1. It takes insurance out of the work place. This helps business and allows the US to compete with countries who have UHC.

    2. It's more efficient. That's easily measurable. The worse UHC system (and there are many different versions) pay less and over more than we do.

    3. We can focus on the best practices and not on snake oil. Buyer beware is problematic in healthcare. Desperate people are willing to buy any poison with the promise of Miracle.
    How do you pay for utopia? No one has been able to answer this simple question...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    How do you pay for utopia? No one has been able to answer this simple question...
    No one s calling for Utopia. That's a fallback cop out answer. Frankly, UHC care cites less. Spending less isn't devastating.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Who will Democrats blame for the failure of Obamacare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    1. It takes insurance out of the work place. This helps business and allows the US to compete with countries who have UHC.

    2. It's more efficient. That's easily measurable. The worse UHC system (and there are many different versions) pay less and over more than we do.

    3. We can focus on the best practices and not on snake oil. Buyer beware is problematic in healthcare. Desperate people are willing to buy any poison with the promise of Miracle.
    1)Insurance never HAD to be provided by employers. 2) If UHC is so efficient, then why is it so expensive? 3) This snake oil business is non-sensical. The government shouldn't be in the business of protecting people from themselves.

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