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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Wouldn't you expect that for big legislation? Battle it out in two different fashions: one in public, the other in private. Try to use the former to influence the outcome of the latter.
    No, especially not when transparency was such a huge campaign promise. If fact that's precisely where he promised the transparency would come about in government - no closed door meetings.

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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, especially not when transparency was such a huge campaign promise. If fact that's precisely where he promised the transparency would come about in government - no closed door meetings.
    You didn't actually want to hold him to that, did you? It was something to get the angry Democrats on board. It's self-defeating, for any party, to conduct the entire process in front of the public.
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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    In order to make that call, one would need a clear understanding of how transparent Zachary Taylor's administration was. I, for one, have no idea. More transparent than Bush? Certainly, but that's not difficult. More transparent than Jimmy Carter? Than Rutherford B. Hayes? Than Calvin Coolidge? Who knows. It's a meaningless boast.
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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    In order to make that call, one would need a clear understanding of how transparent Zachary Taylor's administration was. I, for one, have no idea. More transparent than Bush? Certainly, but that's not difficult. More transparent than Jimmy Carter? Than Rutherford B. Hayes? Than Calvin Coolidge? Who knows. It's a meaningless boast.
    In general, things were closer to the chest. In many other areas, however, well, if you are on the side of decreasing government secrecy, you'd might get a kick out of the last few minutes of this video (starting at 7:23, if I remember right).

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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    President Obama said recently his administration is the most transparent administration in [American] history. Do you agree or disagree?
    It's a rather low bar, but I'd agree with those who say he's rather typical. Not worse, but not more transparent either.

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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You didn't actually want to hold him to that, did you? It was something to get the angry Democrats on board. It's self-defeating, for any party, to conduct the entire process in front of the public.
    I most certainly did. I bought it hook, line and sinker. And I stuck around to inspect what I expected. That's why I quickly turned from Obama voter and supporter to Obama hater. It's not as bad when someone lies to your face when you know it's a lie. But when you believe them and find out later, that's where I was.

    And no, it's not self-defeating to hold public business in front of the public.

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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The most transparent was John Adams. Why? He didn't hide his despotism; he silenced free speech openly.
    He kept the XYZ affair pretty close to the chest
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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And no, it's not self-defeating to hold public business in front of the public.
    It certainly is. Public opinion has a strange effect on a negotiation process that is often unwieldy if you let it dominate. Your leaders need to be able to jostle for position, present alternatives and conduct an agreement without outside interference.
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    Re: Is the Obama administration the "most transparent administration in history"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He kept the XYZ affair pretty close to the chest
    Fine, how about Andrew Jackson? He openly defied the Constitution and murdered a good amount of Cherokees.

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