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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    To amend my first response: Knowing full well that nullification has never won the day, I believe it is a matter of not getting creative enough with it.
    Possible, but I think it is highly doubful that nullificaiton will ever win.
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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Possible, but I think it is highly doubful that nullificaiton will ever win.

    Well with that attitude it sure won't....

    As I stated somewhere else, I think what needs to be done is to push at the State level. Get 3 or 4 States of like minded nature, form caucuses or the like and build up the opposition from there. We won't get anywhere by throwing a US Rep or Senator into the mix, not at this juncture so we have to attack at the State legislature level first and look toward governorships. Than you've got a force to deal with US legislative members

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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    False dichotomy. States have rights, but those rights aren't unlimited. Same as any individual. Federal supremacy doesn't mean states are powerless.
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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    Yes, the states agreed to the Constitution as sovereign nations. They signed independently of each other, and the Constitution would not have failed if not all of the colonies had signed. The states were sovereign, and those signing up for the Constitution believed themselves to be so. These are the United States of America, not State. By the way, when originally written, it was always written as "united States of America".

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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    False dichotomy. States have rights, but those rights aren't unlimited. Same as any individual. Federal supremacy doesn't mean states are powerless.
    And when the federal government tramples over our rights, to whom are they accountable?

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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    The question of States Rights has long been considered a foregone conclusion. The Civil War was suppose to have settled the issue once and for all. Has it? I believe that in order for a government to properly function, the delegation of tasks and authority needs to be distributed in a means that allows greatest control to be had at the most local of levels.

    I believe in order for people to be free, to really know liberty they cannot find it out of centralized authority hundreds or thousands of miles away. It needs to be close to home. Power needs to be distributed downward and expanded from the Federal level, providing a "night watchman" style of governance while additional and more specific functions need to be handled at the State, the county, and the municipal level.

    The closer you are to your government, especially the representitives of a representitive government the more you are able to actively take part in the process of self governance

    I believe the issue of States Rights needs to be revisted, how about you?

    (the issue of slavery is a non-issue and childish. It is childish because no one in their right mind wants to bring the institution back, so please let that dog lie...)
    If the issue were to be reconsidered, I have little doubt that it would end up leaving the federal govt with even more power.

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    Re: Do We Need To Revisit The States Rights Issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If the issue were to be reconsidered, I have little doubt that it would end up leaving the federal govt with even more power.

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