View Poll Results: Was Dorner executed or was it an unfortunate consequence?

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Personally, I'm pretty sure they knew he wasn't going to be taken alive, so it really doesn't matter. They knew that inciting action would either force him to do himself in, or to come out with guns blazing to be shot down. Either way it ended exactly as it should have..... with a dead cop-killer.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Why do I get the feeling that even THE truthful and accurate explanation isn't going to be reasonable enough?

    You're suspicious when right now there's no reason to be - we know absolutely nothing about the end. How can you be suspicious when they haven't released much of any detail on anything?

    I see - to some - that only certain 'stories' will be believable . . .and heavens forbid if reality is anything other than that.
    That's your opinion. Like I said, I have nothing against the police and no reason not to believe a reasonable explanation.

    A suspect held up in a cabin for days is suddenly ended by a fire? That isn't suspicious in itself? You do know that most cops are automatically put on paid suspension when any shooting takes place to be reviewed by a board to make sure it was a righteous shoot?
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    To me, the problem is not whether he was executed or killed himself. It's the police going off the deep end, to such a degree that they shot at women delivering newspapers, and also shot at a white guy in a van, even though the killer happened to be black. In that vein, an investigation is definitely in order. In your attempts to mete out justice to someone who deserves it, you don't go around attempting to toast innocent civilians, for whatever reason.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    There should be a third category in the above poll and that is "Who cares?"

    Even in our liberal, pop culture, tolerant, no judgments society, some people reveal themselves to be so depraved that they need killing. Dorner was in that category.
    It might have been necessary to kill this guy due to his resistance but over all I do not agree with your sentiment. Habeas corpus exists for a reason, so does trial by a jury of your peers.

    We don't have a police force of Judge Dreds. Their job is to detain SUSPECTS for processing by the courts. Anything less if vigilante justice and violates the Bill of Rights.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    We don't have a police force of Judge Dreds. Their job is to detain SUSPECTS for processing by the courts. Anything less if vigilante justice and violates the Bill of Rights.
    Then we need to change the Bill of Rights, because the current Legal System is completely and totally broken.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Irresponsible speculation. Supported by...



    Impossible conspiracy theory.
    Ok, maybe just "He looked like he had a weapon".

    I saw LAPD (granted he wasn't iin LA county) go full retard when one of their mounted officers almost trampled a kid and got dragged off his horse and touched up. Venice beach, fourth of July.

    Completely ridiculous.

    And how many innocent bystanders did the cops mistakenly open fire on again?

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To me, the problem is not whether he was executed or killed himself. It's the police going off the deep end, to such a degree that they shot at women delivering newspapers, and also shot at a white guy in a van, even though the killer happened to be black. In that vein, an investigation is definitely in order. In your attempts to mete out justice to someone who deserves it, you don't go around attempting to toast innocent civilians, for whatever reason.
    It's pretty suspect, isn't it? It's not news for cops go shoot civilians when trying to get bad guys, but there is typically a bad guy in the area. Here they just shot up whatever like all they wanted to do was kill off this guy before he could run his mouth more. The only real thing they did was to sorta prove Dorner's point in the first place.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Lets not imply rationality where none is evident.
    Let's not.

    He comes out, hands up, cameras rolling, no weapon in hand... he lives. End of story.

    Gun planted after they shoot him, hands up, in front of cameras, as a cover up? Stupid theory.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He comes out, hands up, cameras rolling, no weapon in hand... he lives. End of story.

    Gun planted after they shoot him, hands up, in front of cameras, as a cover up? Stupid theory.
    They were allowing cameras close enough to get shot?

    HIGHLY doubtful.

    And "He looked like he had a weapon" is a standard explanation.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    I see the question as irrelevant. If they had a clean sniper shot they would have and should have taken it since he was not surrendering. So if they used an incendiary or a bullet? The only difference is that an incendiary still allowed him to surrender. Thus, whether to "subdue" or start a fire is irrelevant. It was his choice to surrender or be burned alive if it was for incendiary reasons. That gave him an option a sniper bullet wouldn't. Given the power of modern ammunition, his being in that cabin was no different than being in a tissue paper cabin and accordingly they could have just gunned him down with it only a question of how many bullets.

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