View Poll Results: Was Dorner executed or was it an unfortunate consequence?

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    I don't believe the man had any intention on being apprehended alive. I don't believe any cop would have let him leave alive.

    There is so much to this story that we still don't know and I doubt we will ever know. Truly is an intriguing case to say the least.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    They heard a shot and THEN the building erupted in fire...but no report of shots after the explosion.

    So either he shot at a gas-fueled appliances and was killed immediately in the explosion, or the fire erupted spontaneously because of the tear gas being ignited by the gun shot which he aimed at himself....

    But then I find this:

    TEAR GAS GRENADES | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA

    ...so it doesn't make a lot of sense, really. Either he blew himself up (painful way to go) intentionally, he shot himself and a random explosion of fire somehow occurred, or he shot a canister not knowing it would (maybe) erupt (but then where'd the flames come from, unless the canister was near a gas appliance), or there wasn't a canister at all and there's no easy explanation for how a shot preceded a mystery fire, 'cause the police said they "pumped in" tear gas.

    I'll wait 'til the details are more clear.
    This! Excellent post Tessa. We should wait for all details.

    I cannot help but speculate though, that this man was a stone cold killer. He had just shot two deputies, killing one. He had no intention, see his manifesto, of being taken alive. That this ended in his death, by his hand or that of the police cannot be a surprise to anyone.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Since when has tear gas been used to start a fire?
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No one killed him, he could have surrendered at any point. The means taken to that end (his surrender) were reasonable.
    I'm quite sure that if he had come out with his hands up he would have been shot and a gun dropped.

    Cops get REALLY irrational when one of their own is killed.

    And since I don't get the same "right" to vengeance, neither do the cops.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    This! Excellent post Tessa. We should wait for all details.

    I cannot help but speculate though, that this man was a stone cold killer. He had just shot two deputies, killing one. He had no intention, see his manifesto, of being taken alive. That this ended in his death, by his hand or that of the police cannot be a surprise to anyone.

    I completely agree. We don't know if the cabin had gas cans stored in it for winter conditions, or propane or what? He might of started the fire himself. I was basing my opinion and possibilities on an article, not a set of concluded facts. He most likely wasn't going to come in alive by his own choice.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    There should be a third category in the above poll and that is "Who cares?"

    Even in our liberal, pop culture, tolerant, no judgments society, some people reveal themselves to be so depraved that they need killing. Dorner was in that category.
    I was looking for the "Who cares, it's probably better this way" option.


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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    It was reported that he bought scuba equipment prior to the beginning of the shootings. I wonder if that was to protect himself from tear gas?
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    It was reported that he bought scuba equipment prior to the beginning of the shootings. I wonder if that was to protect himself from tear gas?
    Maybe he was planning his retirement in Cozumel.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm quite sure that if he had come out with his hands up he would have been shot
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    and a gun dropped.
    Impossible conspiracy theory.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    There is no information as of right now that would lead me to believe the cops had any intention of taking him in alive.
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