View Poll Results: Was Dorner executed or was it an unfortunate consequence?

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Hillary weighed in earlier today ... she said "What difference does it make at this point in time."

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There's nothing wrong with being passionate about your life. I just don't like it when people are so eager to kill others because most likely you're going to kill an innocent eventually, and there's coming back from that one. Shooting all the bad guys in the world isn't worth one innocent.
    I didn't say it is worth one innocent, but this nutcase was not an innocent, and he was shooting at the cops. That's not only stupid and insane, it's suicidal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I didn't say it is worth one innocent, but this nutcase was not an innocent, and he was shooting at the cops. That's not only stupid and insane, it's suicidal.
    I agree he was bananas though what if he DID have an innocent hostage they didn't know about in the cabin? Would their behavior have been so easily dismissed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I agree he was bananas though what if he DID have an innocent hostage they didn't know about in the cabin? Would their behavior have been so easily dismissed?
    I figure they were certain that there wasn't a hostage, because of the timeline of the story, and the specific actions taken by Dorner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I figure they were certain that there wasn't a hostage, because of the timeline of the story, and the specific actions taken by Dorner.
    Certain? How could they be, unless they searched the premises? They were going by what the two maids that escaped said. But what if some child had been walking out back in the snow and Dorner had snatched him up and tucked him in the back room?

    My only point is the procedure to subdue and detain a suspect and not to dispense instant justice on a cornered perpetrator, exist for a reason. Too many people either wanted to support him, which is wrong or justify anything the police did because it stopped him. They may have been well within guidelines. I don't know for sure. This was always a POLL with simple questions, not accusations about events that I have no first hand knowledge of.
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    He's a cop killer. No sympathy for him.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's not my point at all if it takes deadly force to put someone down, then that's the way it is. But if it can be averted, even with a killer, then it should be. Or do you condone death squads for certain defenses? And does that make you any better than them?
    This situation was not a "death squad." You are trying to equate what happened to other bad cop/bad government actions and it doesn't work. In this instance, there was one person who likely had killed may people, was killing people to kill people - particularly cops - and had extremely long range and high penetration weapons with ranges up to a mile - and an entire forest to try to escape or do an attack from.

    What were the police suppose to do? Pull everyone back at least a mile from the cabin in evry direction and let him stay there however long he liked - or alteratively try to figure an attack plan?

    I have noticed all the people trying to portray the police at the scene as torturous murders who locked him in a building and set him on fire offer NO alternative of what the police should have done instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This situation was not a "death squad." You are trying to equate what happened to other bad cop/bad government actions and it doesn't work. In this instance, there was one person who likely had killed may people, was killing people to kill people - particularly cops - and had extremely long range and high penetration weapons with ranges up to a mile - and an entire forest to try to escape or do an attack from.

    What were the police suppose to do? Pull everyone back at least a mile from the cabin in evry direction and let him stay there however long he liked - or alteratively try to figure an attack plan?

    I have noticed all the people trying to portray the police at the scene as torturous murders who locked him in a building and set him on fire offer NO alternative of what the police should have done instead.
    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    My only point is the procedure to subdue and detain a suspect and not to dispense instant justice on a cornered perpetrator, exist for a reason. Too many people either wanted to support him, which is wrong or justify anything the police did because it stopped him. They may have been well within guidelines. I don't know for sure. This was always a POLL with simple questions, not accusations about events that I have no first hand knowledge of.
    Try reading my post, one above yours before hacking at me. It doesn't say what you imply.
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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think you're talking about out of the country treatment of non-citizens? They probably would still permanently intern a citizen but we'll never hear about that one. Threaten the president and some guys in black suits and sunglasses will show up to your door, handcuff you and ship your ass to some island in the Artic to an underground base...lol
    No, I'm talking about American citizen.

    We just used a drone to kill one that was 16 a few weeks ago.

    And it's now legal, according to the Justice Department, for the President to to deny anyone he chooses the right to a trial, but he can still detain them indefinitely....

    Guess you've missed that.

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    Re: Dorner: Executed or Accident?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What at total grotesque lie and low-life scummy comparison to the horrific actions by the federal government in murdering women and children at Waco with cyanide gas versus state and local police trying to tear gas and burn out a killer into surrendering. Your message truly is sickening to compare the two as they are exactly opposite. The police did it right with Dorner.
    That's your opinion.

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